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The Jihadists have repeatedly stated that their goal is to kill or convert the infidels. The madrassas teach the same line, and add that it is no crime to kill a non-believer. Few Imams or other senior Islamic clerics have publicly denounced that. If the Indonesians and Malays want to be of a different opinion, they sure haven't spoken up about it. I do recall seeing some OBL t-shirts in the tsunami refugees, do you think we handed those out?
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The Jihadists? The madrassas? Few Imams. Some OBL t-shirts.
What percentage of Muslims are jihadists (and assuming you mean only those for whom jihad means a duty to propagate the faith by war, and not just a duty to propagate the faith - as the son of a Baptist missionary I know a little about the latter not just for Muslims)? What percentage of madrasas "teach the same line"? As I noted in another thread, madrasas in Bangladesh for example are state-supervised and essentially little different from regular schools than parochial schools in the US are from private schools. What percentage of imams are "jihadists"? How many kids were wearing OBL t-shirts (or Che t-shirts)? Sometimes it seems like some here think the answer to each is 100%, or at least close enough as not to matter, and seem utterly uninterested in actually testing that hypothesis, instead only seeking sources that confirm the preconception.
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Essentially, we are faced with a situation akin to having a homicidal murderer for a neighbor. He will be treated and healed (have an epiphany, be arrested or whatever), he will kill us, or we will have to kill him to protect ourselves.
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Actually, we seem to be faced with a situation where someone in the neighbor's house is a murderer, and some in the family fear speaking out while others seek to put family first (and any cop who has answered a domestic disturbance call can tell you how strong that bond can be) and a few have the courage to speak out. The neighbors are the Jones. Some would like to go after the murderer, while others seem content to treat all Jones as murderers.
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What have Indonesia and Malaysia done to help us in the GWOT?
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What have France and Germany and Belgium and Mexico and Argentina and Brazil and Chile and Greece and myriad other predominantly Christian countries done? What has Russia done, besides try to thwart us on confronting Iraq and Iran and use the GWOT as an excuse to brand all Chechens as jihadists ripe for killing?