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Originally Posted by Greenhat
Sounds like the reformation, doesn't it?
Would all of you fine "liberators of the oppressed" have been as quick to condemn all of Christianity?
Just curious, you understand. Because for a group of people who are supposed to have an understanding of cultural differences, I see an awful lot of inability to do so when it comes to a particular religion.
Oh, and Team Sergeant? Indonesia, the most populated Islamic nation in the world, and Malaysia, another heavily populated Islamic nation. Both are very progressive, even to the point of allowing someone to tip a Guinness on St. Patty's day... and both are democracies.
And let's not forget Turkey, which may not meet US standards, but is a whole lot better than Iran.
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GH, you seem to do a lot of selective reading of these posts.
Did you miss the first part, where I stated that "they will either reform their religion to accept those with other beliefs"? That is the "win-win" strategy.
The Jihadists have repeatedly stated that their goal is to kill or convert the infidels. The madrassas teach the same line, and add that it is no crime to kill a non-believer. Few Imams or other senior Islamic clerics have publicly denounced that. If the Indonesians and Malays want to be of a different opinion, they sure haven't spoken up about it. I do recall seeing some OBL t-shirts in the tsunami refugees, do you think we handed those out?
Essentially, we are faced with a situation akin to having a homicidal murderer for a neighbor. He will be treated and healed (have an epiphany, be arrested or whatever), he will kill us, or we will have to kill him to protect ourselves.
Can you speak out on the streets of Jakarta against the government or have an Easter parade? Are women in Malasia accorded all of the same rights as men?
For a person who went through training, you seem to be having trouble identifying a threat and developing a strategy to eliminate it. What do you propose? Turning the other cheek a 40th or 50th time? Containment? Appeasement?
Do Moslems pose a threat to Americans/non-Moslems? Do Moslems view the US/non-Moslem countries as targets? Do a significant number of Moslems oppose the targeting of Americans/non-Moslems? Do the leaders of Islam oppose the attacks on Americans/non-Moslems? Have they spoken out against terrorism and crimes committed against Americans/non-Moslems? What have Indonesia and Malaysia done to help us in the GWOT?
TR