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frostfire · 03-11-2018, 19:24

Anybody going this week for this excellent validation of training?
Whether you got expert level in military qual or various competition disciplines, I am certain some of the stages will still be humbling. The first year I participated I thought big deal I shot master score at NRA HP. Wrong! That free float 12 lbs match barrel rifle with sling, gloves etc. is not equal rack grade.

Speaking recently to an infantry MAJ at Pentagon level who was adamant irons are obsolete and belongs in competition only left me brokenhearted and digging for nostalgia. Turned out I made the promo vid for 2018 All Army Small Arms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIqBuLVjH7M
Vanity got the best of me so here it goes:
00:53 was the rifle national match course. 28 degrees with wind made it super fun. Just like prior year, I smoked plenty other participants.

1:20 was the multigun pistol stage with dragging 150+ lbs litter. I sure wished I had 20 lbs extra muscle wt and never skipped squat and dead lift days. Despite solid marksmanship, the studs i.e. Rangers smoked me. Still placed top 7% though.

I ran irons A4 in 2017 and irons A2 in 2016 with old issue gear. Nothing high speed as I tried to show joes it's the user not the tool. That A4/A2 with plain jane gear was enough to beat 93% of the competition and placed top or near top place in several categories. With the pervasive stereotype that officers can't shoot worth a damn, I had hoped year after year there would be category for O's. Hey, top down approach for real change, right

Alas, no dice!

Having played with several FLEO recently, I realize how much I take for granted military marksmanship training. I understand the mission difference but only qualifying 150m and closer, no movement, no shooting in all kinds of terrain and weather, no solid understanding of ballistics and limitation of various platforms, etc......
Was planning a joint training but neither the advanced drills nor honing solid fundamentals found interest.

03-11-2018, 19:24	#8
frostfire Area Commander Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lone Star Posts: 2,153	2018 Small Arms Anybody going this week for this excellent validation of training? Whether you got expert level in military qual or various competition disciplines, I am certain some of the stages will still be humbling. The first year I participated I thought big deal I shot master score at NRA HP. Wrong! That free float 12 lbs match barrel rifle with sling, gloves etc. is not equal rack grade. Speaking recently to an infantry MAJ at Pentagon level who was adamant irons are obsolete and belongs in competition only left me brokenhearted and digging for nostalgia. Turned out I made the promo vid for 2018 All Army Small Arms https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIqBuLVjH7M Vanity got the best of me so here it goes: 00:53 was the rifle national match course. 28 degrees with wind made it super fun. Just like prior year, I smoked plenty other participants. 1:20 was the multigun pistol stage with dragging 150+ lbs litter. I sure wished I had 20 lbs extra muscle wt and never skipped squat and dead lift days. Despite solid marksmanship, the studs i.e. Rangers smoked me. Still placed top 7% though. I ran irons A4 in 2017 and irons A2 in 2016 with old issue gear. Nothing high speed as I tried to show joes it's the user not the tool. That A4/A2 with plain jane gear was enough to beat 93% of the competition and placed top or near top place in several categories. With the pervasive stereotype that officers can't shoot worth a damn, I had hoped year after year there would be category for O's. Hey, top down approach for real change, right Alas, no dice! Having played with several FLEO recently, I realize how much I take for granted military marksmanship training. I understand the mission difference but only qualifying 150m and closer, no movement, no shooting in all kinds of terrain and weather, no solid understanding of ballistics and limitation of various platforms, etc...... Was planning a joint training but neither the advanced drills nor honing solid fundamentals found interest. __________________ "we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope" Rom. 5:3-4 "So we can suffer, and in suffering we know who we are" David Goggins "Aide-toi, Dieu t'aidera " Jehanne, la Pucelle Der, der Geld verliert, verliert einiges; Der, der einen Freund verliert, verliert viel mehr; Der, der das Vertrauen verliert, verliert alles. INDNJC Last edited by frostfire; 03-11-2018 at 19:31.
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