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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
I spent 20 years in, infantry and SF and have spent more time with an M16/M4 than most. I've fired the weapon with the mag touching the ground, it bounces and the lesson was learned.
Yeah, you might get a first round hit but subsequent shots from that position will produce nothing but a bouncing weapon. And as I've said that's ok if you're just slinging lead. And if you're holding it so tight as to reduce the bouncing, well you've just defeated the purpose of accurate firing.
As an SF sniper I held the weapon as light as possible while firing and it did the trick, especially for the long shots. And the reason for the very light triggers.
I've never stopped learning, outshoot me and I will watch and learn. But you're not going to outshoot me with a weapon bouncing off the ground.
And I'll happily go head to head with anyone that desires to fire a weapon with the mag resting on the ground for accuracy.
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Just out of curiosity, did you watch this video at all?
https://youtu.be/IcBGtoH_uSc
You can see how much the weapon moves between rapid fire shots as well as the target he is hitting consistently. I don't know why you keep referencing sniping when we are talking about an M4 and the max distance on a qual range for a soldier is the 300 meter E type/Ivan target. Conventional soldiers are using this technique on the pop up qual ranges and are able to score higher than soldiers who don't do it. When you start them off with the mag on the ground when they zero at 25m, it's not unusual to see groups where all the rounds are touching or will fit under a quarter. This technique helps soldiers out and is effective. As a sniper, you should know that anything that makes the gun and the shooter more stable is a plus.
I challenge you to go out and try it for yourself. Do 1ea 30 round mag prone unsupported, mag not on the ground for 10 shot groups at 25ms. Then do 1ea mag prone unsupported WITH the mag resting on the ground for the same 10 shot groups . I will bet you the 60 rounds of ammo that your groups with the mag on the ground are all tighter than the other groups where you didn't use the magazine for support. And if for some crazy reason that doesn't happen, I will drive over to your apartment and hand you the 60 rounds along with a 12 pack of Guinness, 2ea steaks and a gift certificate for free attendance to the next rifle/carbine course I run.
