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Guy, I also favor those two, but there are others out there that significant players. Problem is that I have been away from the 338 long enough that I am hard pressed to give a yah or nay on them.
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Hold Hard guys
Rick B.
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is knowing it is great on a hamburger but not so great sticking one up your ass.
Author - Richard. 
Experience is what you get right after you need it.
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