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Old 11-13-2015, 14:41   #10
Peregrino
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Originally Posted by wahoo View Post
I suppose you're one of the people who thinks machine guns should be for sale at Walmart without any registration or paperwork. I'll just settle my case with that.

Now don't get me wrong, I think you should be able to own one if you have a clean record and go through the NFA paperwork process. The gun is then registed to you and you're responsible for it, until it's registration is transferred to someone else.

The reason is because the NFA works, there are very few instances of a registered NFA weapon used in a crime. Since 1934 people have owned registered NFA weapons almost without incident.

If they are open to everyone for purchase the "Walmart scenario", there would be mass shootings with Saw's rather than AR15's.
Interesting. I wasn't aware that mass shootings, let alone mass shootings with AR's were a statistically significant cause of death in a nation with a population exceeding 325 million people. And the few instances of registered machineguns being used in crimes that I'm aware of were mostly attributed to LEOs. Let's look at things that are significant. How do you feel about automobiles? Or alcohol? Or - God forbid - cigarettes? Medical malpractice? Any one of them kill far more people every year than firearms yet none of them are as tightly regulated.

You obviously disagree with the sentiments expressed by a number of our founding fathers, succinctly presented in the following quote: "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it" (Thomas Jefferson). Personally I like "The right to arms has long been recognized as a core distinction between a citizen and a subject, a free man and a slave." As others have pointed out - the NFA is a violation of the Second Amendment that has nothing to do with arms control while having everything to do with people control. If the original court case had been contested, we might have a completely different circumstance today.

Personally, I find far less to fear in "Wal-Mart machineguns" than I do in legislative pens.
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