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**The Reaper** · 08-23-2013, 18:16

koz - Good tip on the Trail Boss, will have to check it out. 10.7 grains of any other powder I know will not even fill 50% of a .308 case.

PSM - Understood that in arid environments, water sources tend to be collection points. BTW, if you power up a cell phone, or maybe even leave the battery in it, you are done and will be found in less than 60 minutes. I would not take any modern electronics, except NVGs.

dollarbill - I would think you would get a lot better performance out of a deep cycle battery than a car battery. Maybe even throw a solar panel on it to get as much as you can out of it. Good, easy, fast travel along the water, but it is also not easy to hide from people along and over it, and it is likely to be watched. The point in the instructions to be walking 100 miles is to see what weapons and associated gear you would take and move tactically with. Using a sled and a boat to take a safe's worth of guns kind of defeats the purpose.

PSM - You got it. All you need is a place to hide the items you were dumping for later. A couple of 5-6 gallon buckets woule be good for the short stuff, a 55 gallon drum is also nice, but you can't exactly grab it by the handle and haul ass with it.

koz - No lie about the drift. I expect the same issues with the .300 Blackout, though the 220 gr. and 240 gr. bullets at 1050 fps should hold a little better than the 180 due to their improved BC. The challenge is getting the rifle set up to reliably run everything from 110s to 240s.

Beef - Sounds like you are taking just what you need. I don't think I would want to be chasing you through the woods. The Colt is a good pistol, maybe a little fragile, especially with the years on it and metallurgical changes. I am thinking I need a Ruger .22/45 Lite for myself. With the threaded barrel, it should be a natural for a little rimfire can. Mmm, Snickers!

Brush - Yep, a .22LR will kill a deer, often cleanly, in the right hands. Not sure how many people are capable of doing that on a regular basis, and cleaning and jerking a deer might take a little while.

Pat - I will be stingy with pretty much everything I had to hump. When I was a grunt, I always hated the guys who would go out for five days with one canteen, half the mags they should have had, a couple of meals, and a 1/2 can of Cope. Then spend the next four days bumming from everyone else. They were fast and light, but IMHO, had no pride or self respect. On Day Five, a cigarette is worth big bucks. Hmm, that might be the same in this scenario....

TR

08-23-2013, 18:16	#107
The Reaper Quiet Professional Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Free Pineland Posts: 24,835	koz - Good tip on the Trail Boss, will have to check it out. 10.7 grains of any other powder I know will not even fill 50% of a .308 case. PSM - Understood that in arid environments, water sources tend to be collection points. BTW, if you power up a cell phone, or maybe even leave the battery in it, you are done and will be found in less than 60 minutes. I would not take any modern electronics, except NVGs. dollarbill - I would think you would get a lot better performance out of a deep cycle battery than a car battery. Maybe even throw a solar panel on it to get as much as you can out of it. Good, easy, fast travel along the water, but it is also not easy to hide from people along and over it, and it is likely to be watched. The point in the instructions to be walking 100 miles is to see what weapons and associated gear you would take and move tactically with. Using a sled and a boat to take a safe's worth of guns kind of defeats the purpose. PSM - You got it. All you need is a place to hide the items you were dumping for later. A couple of 5-6 gallon buckets woule be good for the short stuff, a 55 gallon drum is also nice, but you can't exactly grab it by the handle and haul ass with it. koz - No lie about the drift. I expect the same issues with the .300 Blackout, though the 220 gr. and 240 gr. bullets at 1050 fps should hold a little better than the 180 due to their improved BC. The challenge is getting the rifle set up to reliably run everything from 110s to 240s. Beef - Sounds like you are taking just what you need. I don't think I would want to be chasing you through the woods. The Colt is a good pistol, maybe a little fragile, especially with the years on it and metallurgical changes. I am thinking I need a Ruger .22/45 Lite for myself. With the threaded barrel, it should be a natural for a little rimfire can. Mmm, Snickers! Brush - Yep, a .22LR will kill a deer, often cleanly, in the right hands. Not sure how many people are capable of doing that on a regular basis, and cleaning and jerking a deer might take a little while. Pat - I will be stingy with pretty much everything I had to hump. When I was a grunt, I always hated the guys who would go out for five days with one canteen, half the mags they should have had, a couple of meals, and a 1/2 can of Cope. Then spend the next four days bumming from everyone else. They were fast and light, but IMHO, had no pride or self respect. On Day Five, a cigarette is worth big bucks. Hmm, that might be the same in this scenario.... TR __________________ "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910 De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
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