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Old 08-20-2013, 20:14   #77
GratefulCitizen
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Originally Posted by The Reaper View Post
Crossing water is a decent plan, especially given the arid climate you live near. You would likely haver to plot your route from water source to water source. In fact, it would not be a terrible idea to cache some water at regular intervals along your route or near your destination. If the situation appeared to be going bad, you could dig in some five gallon buckets of water and recover them or not, as needed without any big investment other than a little sweat.

I think one of your biggest assets is your detailed knowledge of the area and especially the neighborhoods. If anyone has a good route out that they know like the back of their hand, it should be you.

Your best course of action would be almost certainly be to move at night, and lay up in the shade and rest during the day.

I must admit that after seeing a couple of people mentioning taking weapons with very little ammo, I am very pessimistic about the logic. Why carry a carbine, shotgun, and two pistols with only a few rounds each. I think I would rather have the M-4, five 30 rd. mags, and another five pounds of food or gear than a shotgun and eight rounds to go with it.

If you don't need it, break it down and keep it in your ruck for potential future use. If you really can't carry it, I would put it in a good hiding place where I could come back later and recover it.

I also have a NAA .22 mini-revolver, and I would not count on harvesting game with it, unless the game was a domesticated animal that you could call over to stand while you put it down. Have you tried hitting small targets with it already? Mine works best in a contact kill employment. No precision fire with that.

I think you have the basis for a good plan. You just have to think it through.

TR
Just went with what's currently on the shelf.
If I were to go with what's on the shopping list it might be a bit different.

If items on the shopping list were included there would be a 22lr conversion for the Colt, 22lr conversion for the ar15, lose the shotgun, lose spare 22 mag ammo (keeping 22 mag in cylinder and also bringing 22lr cylinder), add 500 round 22lr.

Would still only take 25 rds 10mm and 60 rds 5.56.
Would be unlikely to throw ar15 in this circumstance.

Have shot small targets w/22 mag.
Not a preferred choice, just going with what was on the shelf.

Egressing the town would be helped some by area knowledge, but it's not really a very big town.
The bigger help in this scenario is the accumulated knowledge of the remote areas.

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I know it's a mental exercise, but it's hard to envision a scenario where egress would be favorable.
A large, young family; difficult, remote terrain; and the best place to go is here.

Page, Arizona:
Reliable, redundant power.
Relative to the population size, the most reliable water supply on earth.
A lake full of fish.
Very remote.
Not along any natural (or easy) lines of drift.
Absolute barriers to entry from three directions (cliffs), difficult approach from the other direction, and most of the town is on a mesa with huge fields of fire.
Well-armed, conservative, religious population.
Very conservative local, state, tribal, and federal LEOs (and plenty of them).
Large LDS population (preppers).
Children are a large part of the population (fosters peaceful solutions among adults).
Few single men age 18-25 (trouble makers).
Basically, low initial zombie ratio and low zombie growth rate.
Incoming hostile/tyrannical forces would also be in for one heck of a problem.

Given most zombie scenarios, the big advantage of the UPS drivers is becoming the new phone book when comm systems break down.
We know where to find everyone.
Best chance would be to try to help keep order and build for the future.
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