[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by (1VB)compforce

Grab my go-bag (lightweight frameless ruck), ~20 lbs at normal weight + 10 lbs for food (ramen noodles and foil tuna packets) and water

Panther Arms DPMS AR-10 broken into upper and lower and stuffed in the bag with one 20 round mag for any ranged hunting/defense (~11.5 lb)

Beretta CX4 Storm 9mm - I keep it velcro strapped to side of ruck for quick deployment. It's accurate out to 100M and blends with the ruck well enough to avoid casual notice (~6 lb) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_Cx4_Storm for those not familiar with it.

Beretta 92FS - I'd only choose this over the 1911 because the mags are interchangeable with the storm.

4 X mags - If I need more than this, I've failed miserably

Leatherman Skeletool and Benchmade fixed blade are on the pack, my 3" folder is always in my pocket so knives are covered.

Total weight - 50-55 lb

Everything is ready to go except the AR, it is easily accessible on the way to the exit so it only takes the time to punch the pins and stuff into the bag. I can leave this behind if time doesn't permit, the storm is enough for most E&E applications.

I'm on the fringes of the North Atlanta Metro so my E&E would be to the N/NE away from the city and into the wooded lake lanier area.

AR-10 w/ 20 rounds and one mag - 11 pounds

CX4 Not a real fan of 6 pound pistols, but that is your call. w/four 15 rd. mags - 9 lbs.

Beretta M-92FS - 2 lbs.

Total weapons weight, with ammo - 22 lbs.

I would have worked a .22LR in there somewhere, but if loud is your thing, have at it.

I doubt that you will have the opportunity to take advantage of the range of the 7.62x51, but the penetration might work well for you.

My personal opinion is that if you are going to hump a 10 pound rifle, you might as well have enough ammo to make things interesting, but that is your call. I don't think the CX4 will do much that the M-92 will not, but it might work for you. Eliminating the CX4 and adding several mags for the rifle and a .22LR would be my suggestion. The Beretta is also bulkier and heavier than it needs to be.

Good idea hiding the guns as much as possible.


ODNT, concur wholeheartedly with the good serviceable boots, socks, and plenty of powder and maybe some moleskin.

Originally Posted by Knight

Rem. 12 gauge 870 pump with 100 rounds; 20 slugs and the rest 00 buckshot.
H&K .45 USP with 5 loaded clips=60 rounds.
Feedback is very welcome on the weapon choices. Great scenario-thanks!

Knight, not sure of your location, but your weapons selection will likely limit you to 50 meters effective fire or less.

870 w/ 100 rounds - 18 pounds.

HK USP and 60 rounds - 5 pounds.

Total, 23 pounds, very deadly up close, but primarily an urban or thick woods loadout.

.45 ACP is heavy, and both of your selections are fairly loud, so expect attention.

Originally Posted by Fox583

It depends, is this force using 5.56 or 7.62 either way, I think im going with my Chi-com Para model SKS with 5 loaded mags. The SKS will take down big game. I will also take my duty pistol S&W M&P 9mm. I also am bringing the family. My wife will be carrying the baby in that weird baby thing we bought that she has never used. She is also carrying the shotgun and pistol. We are headed approximately 1/2 miles through the woods behind us, there is an old rail road that runs north and south, we are headed North. I also have a hi-powered air rifle for small game and quite kills. I ditch the water in my pack and exchange it for a filtration system with an extra filter. Oh and I live in Southeast Texas so about a gallon of OFF haha.

If you are going with 7.62x39, why does the pursuers' ammo choice of 5.56 or 7.62 matter? No recovery there.

Is this an SKS with a 30 round mag, or ten rounders? I wouldn't expect the 7.62x39 to take real big game, but it would be okay up through deer, if you had the right ammo.

The air rifle will weigh as much as a regular rifle, but the ammo is light, and quiet.

Good choice using a duty handgun.

I am not sure I would want to load up the wife with the baby, a shotgun, and a pistol, but you know her capabilties and limitations.

Railroad tracks can allow for some long engagement ranges. I would prefer to add an optic to the rifle.

SKS w/ 5 mags and 150 rds. - 18 pounds

M&P w/3 mags - 4 pounds

Air rifle w/ pellets - 8 pounds

Unknown shotgun w/ 25 rounds - 11 pounds

Unknown pistol (assumed to be same as your duty weapon for ammo interchangeability) - 4 pounds

Unknown baby weight, 15 lbs.

Your load of weapons and ammo - 30 lbs.

Wife's load of weapons and ammo - 15 lbs., plus baby, plus food, baby food, diapers, water, shelter, etc.

I think you are gun and ammo heavy, especially with the baby.

You can pack the 45 pound ruck and 30 pounds of guns, but I do not think she is going to be able to take the guns, ammo, baby, baby needs, and a 45 pound ruck for a total of 75+ pounds.

Best of luck!

Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

Not sure I understand the specifics of the scenario.

Is it you (and maybe a few other individuals in the community) being raided?
Or, is the entire community (Red Dawn) being raided?

GC:

Don't read too much into the scenario.

You are on the run in five minutes with what you can carry, the authorities have blocked the area roads, and will be searching for you very soon. Your goal is to evade or defeat your pursuers for 100 miles to a safe area of your choosing.

What do you grab for weapons to go with your BoB as you jock up and move out?

TR