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**Peregrino** · 08-17-2013, 11:10

Now that we've clarified the mix-up. The S&W M&P is a quality Glock alternative. S&W has worked hard to ensure it's competitive with all of the other "tactical Tupperware" because they want the military and LEO markets. They've brought them to Bragg for us to play with several times over the last few years because they were soliciting input to incorporate "just in case" the Army ever comes to its senses and reopens pistol procurement. Each time a couple of us broke out of the office and wasted a morning shooting S&W's ammo. I liked all of the variants they demo'd. Even (especially) the ones with the manual safety. If I ever finish all of the other projects I'm playing with, I'll definitely consider getting a couple. Features wise, they have quite a bit going for them and they're easy to shoot. If my brother ever decides to get full sized pistols for my nieces, I'll recommend he look at them. It helps that S&W has a military/LEO discount (if you know to ask and you go through the program office to buy it) to make the price competitive with Blue Label Glocks. Course all of this is MOO. YMMV. Find a buddy who has one or a range with rentals and shoot it. If you like it, buy it. If you don't - well, now you have your own data points.

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Peregrino Quiet Professional Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Occupied Pineland Posts: 4,701	Now that we've clarified the mix-up. The S&W M&P is a quality Glock alternative. S&W has worked hard to ensure it's competitive with all of the other "tactical Tupperware" because they want the military and LEO markets. They've brought them to Bragg for us to play with several times over the last few years because they were soliciting input to incorporate "just in case" the Army ever comes to its senses and reopens pistol procurement. Each time a couple of us broke out of the office and wasted a morning shooting S&W's ammo. I liked all of the variants they demo'd. Even (especially) the ones with the manual safety. If I ever finish all of the other projects I'm playing with, I'll definitely consider getting a couple. Features wise, they have quite a bit going for them and they're easy to shoot. If my brother ever decides to get full sized pistols for my nieces, I'll recommend he look at them. It helps that S&W has a military/LEO discount (if you know to ask and you go through the program office to buy it) to make the price competitive with Blue Label Glocks. Course all of this is MOO. YMMV. Find a buddy who has one or a range with rentals and shoot it. If you like it, buy it. If you don't - well, now you have your own data points. __________________ A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. ~ Marcus Tullius Cicero (42B.C)
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