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Originally Posted by Sdiver
J,
I get what you're saying and I realized I should have made myself a little more clearer on the subject.
While these medics/corpsmen coming out of theater and ETSing then looking at getting into the civilian EMS realm, have to start from "scratch" by having to go through EMT/B class and then take the National Registry, just to be able to get on with a company or dept.
Sure they've seen and done things in their medical career while on AD that those in the civilian side have never, nor will ever see, while those on the civvie side see things and repeatedly do (The 3am stubbed toe, because I stepped on a Goddamnfuckingmotherfucking Lego call), that these folks haven't seen or done.
What I meant to say was, it's a shame that they have to go through Basic class just to get on with a company or dept. and start out at the bottom of the pay scale, just because they're a "New Basic. Fresh out of school". I know that when I was with AMR here in town, we had a couple of guys come in, at separate times, who were combat medics, with a couple tours each (Iraq and A-stan) under their belts, but started out at the beginning end of the pay scale, just because they were newly certified Basics. I would think that they would at least start out a little bit higher up on the pay scale due to experience alone. But nope, company policy states, you're new to the company, or a new Basic, you start out at minimum wage.
It's too bad that there isn't a program in place, where these guys/gals coming out of the military can "challenge" the National Registry test(s), either Basic, Advanced, or Medic, and have their time in experience count for them when it comes time for hire. So I hope that something comes from that Bill being proposed in the article that Dragbag posted above.
I'm glad to see/hear that you kept/are keeping you Registry cert up to date. Like you said, it really isn't good for anything for you right now, but it is nice having it "just in case", and also if you did let it lapse for an extended period you don't have to go through possibly having to take the class(es) over again.
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The Army is doing a better job, if I am correct, most have always had at least an EMT-B. Now they are proposing that flight medics have EMT-P. There are also a few reciprocity states as well as bridge courses out there, but are very fast paced and hard to get. SOF however has Georgia and a bridge course if you have your ATP.
The problem with these civilian EMS, is like some of you have stated before, "you're new", so start at the bottom of your pay scale B, I, P, etc...Not only that , until the new Registry is complete, many states have their own certification regardless if you are NREMT, which is becoming a true national Certification
https://www.nremt.org/nremt/download...TP_FINAL.pdf.I had to become certified through the State of NC before working in Moore County.
I agree with proving yourself to Medical Director, how many folks have the training, but not the true skills to accomplish the task. But its no different than PA
"1961 to 1970
The PA concept is introduced to organized medicine and the general public to combat a shortage of doctors and clinical support personnel. The first formal educational programs for physician assistants and nurse practitioners are established in the United States. Former military corpsmen are the primary source of students for both PA and MEDEX programs. Physician assistant graduates and students form national professional organizations to address their collective concerns. Federal funding becomes available for PA educational programs. The first organization is established to register PAs and assure employers and the public of their competence. The American Medical Association begins to explore accreditation and certification standards for PA and MEDEX graduates. This and the next decade are a time of profound change and experiment in health care in the United States."
http://www.pahx.org/period02.html