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Originally Posted by Ismail K.
Well, as the late great Carl Sagan said: "I try not to think with my gut. If I'm serious about understanding the world, thinking with anything besides my brain, as tempting as that might be, is likely to get me into trouble."
So, no I try not to "feel" anything about them, although for the sake of honesty, I'll alway cop to my biases, and lord knows I have them. Rather what I am saying is that I have some evidence which causes problems for those statements, and no evidence (outside of the very anecdotal and emotionally charged field of the mass media) to support them.
Actually it is just this sort of "thinking with your gut" or "feeling" that I was trying to highlight and question. More then once I have heard people say this or that about Islam, Muslims, or the terrorists, and then provide no substantiation, like it is an obvious self evident axiom. Well, it is not to me, especially with so many preconceived notions and entrenched ideologies at work in this sort of discussion. I am just hoping that folks will take the time to self examine their beliefs. Hope I clarified my post.
Edit: it occurs to me that you may have been trying to goad me out of my shell a bit and really make an argument to support my opinions. I'm happy to do so, as long as it is a solicited opinion and not the wannabe SF guy expressing obnoxious opinions to his elders.
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You might want to review the earlier posts in this thread, including the ones that cite Muslim works (and some of the other threads that lay out the rationale for these positions) before going down this road.
Could save you some pain, unless you are really sure of yourself.
TR
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