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I think I was so adamant about proving you wrong because of the first post you made where you used "therefore." I still defend my first initial point where I stated you couldn’t link those 2 passages together.
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No problem, it’s not about proving me wrong, it’s about proving them wrong. I sincerely would like to be wrong…
In linking those two passages together, 1400 years of history makes the case against you argument - it is the legacy of “Jihad” - it is Islam. Islam means submission and only when the world (Dar al-Harb) submits to Shari’ah, will there be peace - so they say…LOL
http://www.andrewbostom.org/loj/
http://www.andrewbostom.org/loj//content/view/59/31/
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I still defend the fact that Islam teaches peace…
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On what and whose terms?
The terms defined by the “book of mecca” or those defined by the “book of medina” ?
I will agree with you that some muslims teach peace, but the peace they’re preachin is not what Islam demands.
According to the Qur’an, Sira, Hadith, and Shari’ah Law, non-muslims are to be subdued and treated as second class citizens - coerced and intimidated to convert to Islam, if not, humiliating taxes like the jizya are/were to be imposed - the 1400 year historical record proves this true. How can this be peace - the subjugation of others?
Take a brief moment and look at the movement towards dhimmitude in the Philippines - by allowing the “Jizya” - will this bring peace or subjugation?
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...0201-n8nu.html
http://moneyjihad.wordpress.com/2010...collect-taxes/
http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.p...02-02&SO=&HC=2
http://www.historyofjihad.org/philippines.html
When Qur’anic source materials are examined, it becomes evident that surah 9:5 is part of the theology of Jihad - Jihad is/was violent, and those that reject/rejected Islam are/were to be killed.
The significance of my use of therefore has to do with the chronological order of the Qur’an and its so-called progressive revelation, which is useful information, if one is to halfway make any sense of what Islam teaches.
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I think you make your point very well when it's realized that the extremists who read the Qur'an, do not look at anything else, other then what the book says.
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The use of “therefore” and linking the two passages together dates back to the 7th century, it has everything to do with the Qur’an, Sira, Hadith, and Shari’ah Law.
Muhammad’s followers noticed he was contradicting himself quite frequently since he claimed that his revelations were from the angel Gabriel - and then later - Muhammad would tell his followers that allah had invalidated it. I do not believe it is acceptable or sensible to think that allah changes his mind so frequently unless he‘s a fraud, a cultural icon. Nevertheless, since Islam is a dualistic system, we will always be facing the never-ending threat of its teachings - which are - the inspiration of what makes an Islamic terrorist.
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I'll fold on the river card, and I guess I owe you a drink.
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Nah, don’t worry about that…LOL…if you ever find you way down here in the south, the drinks are on me
