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01-23-2010, 22:30

Conventional animosity toward SF has probably never been topped by the levels of stupidity unleashed upon us during the Haitian Vacation '94-'96 primarily by the 10th Mtn Div commander and his crew. I think Meade was the 2 star. I forget the 1 star's name but he was a booger eating dipshit too and he HATED SF, the Div DCO COL Valenzuela? had a negligent discharge with his 9mm not 10 feet in front of myself and my Team Daddy walking into division HQ one afternoon...a prime example of the level of professionalism at their Division HQ during that time. They had OH58s dedicated to patrolling for SF uniform violations (no shit). They took aerial photographs of cats out without their clay beret on their coconut or without their LBE on and that was it, done deal article 15. Some careers were destroyed down there over friggin uniform violations. It got so bad General Downing, God rest his soul, came down there and told Meade to enjoy his last command because he would be retiring after his trip to Haiti was over.

I saw it again in Afghanistan in 2004. We had a "State" corralled in a village with 1 way out...up the mountain and he was not in a hurry to climb because we had run him hard. The QRF rolled in led by a 10th Mtn Div (again) LTC who decided he was going to not listen to the commander on the ground since it was just an SF Captain... So he put the whole QRF down behind us (well we had already secured it for him...) and started them searching the village even though he was told to drop a squad off up top. Well sure enough dude scooted up the mountain and was gone. We had been on patrol for 11 days, chasing this dude for the last 4 of them, chased him in the snow and ice friggin daily all over the countryside, we finally had him cold, and that turd LTC f***ed it up in a HUGE way. Ugh...

Hmm now I recall another incident with a turd full bird from the 173rd in Iraq too getting into a d*** measuring contest with COL Cleveland about who was who. The first time his troops got in contact (and it was very minor) he backed his ass up and guarded our shit until he had 100% of his stuff on the ground, which took until the shooting was over before he did anything substantial (as far as I recollect) with his brigade of combat *cough* jumpers LOL....so anyway. Gold stars on jumpwings for Iraq are probably already on another thread, but always worth a sneer...

Yeah I've seen conventional jealousy/hatred toward SF a time or two, but I must admit I saw the complete inverse the majority of my career and had overall good relationships with conventional folks with the exceptions of a few turds here and there.

01-23-2010, 22:30	#65
rltipton Guest Posts: n/a	Conventional animosity toward SF has probably never been topped by the levels of stupidity unleashed upon us during the Haitian Vacation '94-'96 primarily by the 10th Mtn Div commander and his crew. I think Meade was the 2 star. I forget the 1 star's name but he was a booger eating dipshit too and he HATED SF, the Div DCO COL Valenzuela? had a negligent discharge with his 9mm not 10 feet in front of myself and my Team Daddy walking into division HQ one afternoon...a prime example of the level of professionalism at their Division HQ during that time. They had OH58s dedicated to patrolling for SF uniform violations (no shit). They took aerial photographs of cats out without their clay beret on their coconut or without their LBE on and that was it, done deal article 15. Some careers were destroyed down there over friggin uniform violations. It got so bad General Downing, God rest his soul, came down there and told Meade to enjoy his last command because he would be retiring after his trip to Haiti was over. I saw it again in Afghanistan in 2004. We had a "State" corralled in a village with 1 way out...up the mountain and he was not in a hurry to climb because we had run him hard. The QRF rolled in led by a 10th Mtn Div (again) LTC who decided he was going to not listen to the commander on the ground since it was just an SF Captain... So he put the whole QRF down behind us (well we had already secured it for him...) and started them searching the village even though he was told to drop a squad off up top. Well sure enough dude scooted up the mountain and was gone. We had been on patrol for 11 days, chasing this dude for the last 4 of them, chased him in the snow and ice friggin daily all over the countryside, we finally had him cold, and that turd LTC f*ed it up in a HUGE way. Ugh... Hmm now I recall another incident with a turd full bird from the 173rd in Iraq too getting into a d* measuring contest with COL Cleveland about who was who. The first time his troops got in contact (and it was very minor) he backed his ass up and guarded our shit until he had 100% of his stuff on the ground, which took until the shooting was over before he did anything substantial (as far as I recollect) with his brigade of combat cough jumpers LOL....so anyway. Gold stars on jumpwings for Iraq are probably already on another thread, but always worth a sneer... Yeah I've seen conventional jealousy/hatred toward SF a time or two, but I must admit I saw the complete inverse the majority of my career and had overall good relationships with conventional folks with the exceptions of a few turds here and there.