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st1650 · 11-10-2009, 23:06

If you decide to go with a Ciener kit buy one directly from Midway or Brownells. Do not under any circumstances buy directly from him! To say the guy is an asshole would be quite an understatement.

On a personal note, I've tried 3 different 22lr kit for my AR15 (Colt, M261 and the Ciener) and only the Ciener performs well so far. I've been through 2 bricks of Federal bulk and 1 brick of CCI Standard velocity and it's been 100% reliable even without changing springs for the standard velocity stuff. I was really impressed especially compared to the M261 that would FTE at least once per 10rnd mag. It's also the only one that works flawlessly with my 2stage Armalite NM trigger/notched hammer (I would get failures to fire on other kits).

Also big thumbs up for the Advantage Arms for both the 1911 and the Glock. Quality piece of kit.

ETA: http://www.donotbuyciener22lrconversions.org/

11-10-2009, 23:06	#19
st1650 Asset Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 45	If you decide to go with a Ciener kit buy one directly from Midway or Brownells. Do not under any circumstances buy directly from him! To say the guy is an asshole would be quite an understatement. On a personal note, I've tried 3 different 22lr kit for my AR15 (Colt, M261 and the Ciener) and only the Ciener performs well so far. I've been through 2 bricks of Federal bulk and 1 brick of CCI Standard velocity and it's been 100% reliable even without changing springs for the standard velocity stuff. I was really impressed especially compared to the M261 that would FTE at least once per 10rnd mag. It's also the only one that works flawlessly with my 2stage Armalite NM trigger/notched hammer (I would get failures to fire on other kits). Also big thumbs up for the Advantage Arms for both the 1911 and the Glock. Quality piece of kit. ETA: http://www.donotbuyciener22lrconversions.org/ Last edited by st1650; 11-10-2009 at 23:37.
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