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Old 11-05-2009, 14:04   #17
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Originally Posted by longrange1947 View Post
Guys - Make sure that the students coming to our school can shoot. We have a very simple pre-shoot that must be passed to get in. It is simply three of five, five round groups within 1.25 inches, outside to outside at 25 meters. We have new M4s with BUIS s for this shoot and we test the weapons first to insure it can be done and not the weapon screwing up.

Don't get the boot because you can't group. You would be surprised at the number that have lost basic marksmanship skills.
Master Rick,

I thought of using PM, but figured that anyone who'd like to augment their marksmanship or coaching skills can benefit as well.

When you say lost, do you mean forget or just ingrain bad habits?

I'd presume that without routine dry fire & grouping, doing reflex fire, machine guns, high caliber firearms, CQB, usw. at close to moderate distance can mask and ingrain bad habits (bucking, flinching, jerking, usw.). Multiplied over time and thousands of rounds, these habits then become semi permanent.

One of the struggle I had in coaching was trying to come from the students perspective. When the firearm, positions (esp. prone supported), and the shooter's understanding of the terminology & instructions were good to go, what more could/should be done other than just following the two basic fundamentals as Master Gene Econ had always emphasized. Align sights, squeeze straight. FWIW, if I may toot my own horn, the groups below were my 4th and 5th group from starting out (mk262, Rock River Match, 20rds, 100yds, ~5mph wind, prone unsupported). Considering what the rifle-ammo was capable of, they're still lousy groups) I would never consider myself good/prodigious, etc. Yes, thousands of dry fire and I read & conceptualized a lot, but I merely followed the basic instructions. I'd even dare to say that it has got to be easy and if I can do it, anyone can. One of my joy (ego aside) was to have a student outshoot me. When I couldn't even bring them to my level, I must confess it was rather frustrating although I kept it in the back of my head (just like in ER, I learned the folks can pick up emotional cue and let it affect them)

Thank you for the education.
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