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Old 10-06-2009, 13:28   #83
Warrior-Mentor
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I don't think your assumption or conclusion is correct. One aspect is that Islam is a idea. How does one go to war with a idea? The people are a different issue. Look at Germany in the 1930's/1940's. One might say a lot of Germans where infected with the idea of nazism.

We would not become what we loathe. I am still wondering about what that actually mean. If this is a just a attack on someone who is just different, maybe that is what you mean. We have a right to act preemptively from a biblical perspective. We also have a biblical right to self defense.
Agree. Did we become what we loath when we beat the Nazis? The Japanese?

Or did we show our true strength, determination and willingness to fight and die for what we love and know is right?

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There is much more but, the point is the Qur'an is not well thought out or consistent in what it wants the believer to do. The re-interpretation of the Qur'an by Islamic cleric may be a answer. They? are currently reviewing Bakari and the Hadeths. Making Islam a more tolerant of others religion.

This is a complex issue for us to find a way to deal with Islam. There is possible change within Islam as I mentioned. I would suggest that you read and study the Qur'an, the Hadeths, understand Shariah law and then ask yourself,
1) How do I fit in, or what does Islam have in store for me?"
2) How can we help Islam change or deal with Islam and defend who and what we are?"

I see a combination of cures. One is the metamorphosis of Islam to a more tolerant 21st century religion, if possible. Like fighting any idea, it is not going to go away.
Sunni Islamic law prevents the change you suggest. I don’t have much hope for the Shias either.
Enclosed is the section on Scholarly Consensus and a couple highlighted areas for your consideration.
You’ll find that once a ruling becomes consensus, it cannot be changed later on by a succeeding era.

See Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law - B7.2; and B7.4(1); and B7.5

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