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Why do I bother? Oh well,
Atilla ref: "As far as my voice, as a non QP on this site I have found that it is better to error on the side of ingratiation rather than on the side of overstepping my bounds . . . If it were me to choose, I'd make sure I never did anything on the side of ingratiation. Have you ever noticed how similar the words ingratiate and ingratitude are?
Razor: Please don't encourage that ingratiation thing in the young.
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