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Old 04-24-2009, 13:38   #11
RichL025
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Originally Posted by olhamada View Post
Thanks SS. Great case. ... He was splinting his right side, leaning forward supporting himself with his left arm, breathing through his mouth. When I walked in he immediately said, "I can't breathe"....
...I breathing 22/min, HR was 130...

... I quickly listened to his chest and heard no breath sounds on the right....

...What would you have done?
No offense, but he should have had a needle or chest tube RIGHT AT THIS POINT.

XRay should have been an afterthought to confirm your proper chest tube placement.

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One thing I didn't say, is that this was an outlying hospital with no good surgical backup, and it would take at least an hour to get him to a trauma center even with LifeFlight. I didn't have an hour. I had a few minutes at most.
No, you DID have an hour. You had several hours. He has already demonstrated that his hemothorax is not that brisk (he accumulated those 850 ccs in his chest over the 4 hours he was sitting there), not in the seconds after you placed the tube) and you addressed his limmediate life-threatening injury already.

I would submit you have no options other than transferring the patient to a trauma center. An ED thoracotomy has a dismal save rate (to hospital discharge) in experienced hands.

Give him two large bore lines, get blood flowing, FFP and platelets as necessary, and get him to a trauma center stat.
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