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Old 06-22-2004, 20:09   #175
Airbornelawyer
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OK, so somebody doesn't like stipulatin'

Then please elaborate on which statement or statements you disagree with:

1. The Christians were defeated in the Crusades.

2. The Christians were defeated by the Muslims.

3a. Defeat in the Crusades was a big shock for the Christian world.

3b. Defeat by the Muslims was a big shock for the Christian world.
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