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Old 11-07-2008, 01:45   #38
sf11b_p
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Originally Posted by JSE View Post
Rest assured, sir, I am taking notes and reviewing the facts.
Really. Why don't you start with some homework.

Begin by googling the names Charles Schumer, Dianne Feinstein with guns, gun control.

Check on the fact that despite both the aboved names stance on guns, in 2005 at least, they both possessed unrestricted concealed weapons permits.

Then just run google for anti-gun quotes.

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We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that... If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime. - Mary Ann Carlson, Member of the Senate: 1989-90, 1991-92 (Democratic leader), and 1993-94.
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The only way to discourage the gun culture is to remove the guns from the hands and shoulders of people who are not in the law enforcement business. - New York Times 1975-09-24
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You know I don't believe in people owning guns, only the police and military. And I'm going to do everything I can to disarm this state. - Michael Dukakis, Governor (MA) 1974-1979, 1983-91 Presidential Candidate 1988

in conversation with Mike Yacino, MA Gun Owner's Action League, and Roy Innis, CORE. 1986-06-16
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I think you have to do it a step at a time and I think that is what the NRA is most concerned about, is that it will happen one very small step at a time, so that by the time people have "woken up" -- quote -- to what's happened, it's gone farther than what they feel the consensus of American citizens would be. But it does have to go one step at a time and the beginning of the banning of semi-assault military weapons, that are military weapons, not "household" weapons, is the first step." - Barbara Fass, former Mayor Stockton, CA, ABC News Special, Peter Jennings: Guns 1991-04-11
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The NRA is bound and determined not to allow the Brady Bill to be enacted. And they're a fearsome opponent. They see this as `threshold' legislation. Because they realize if we get the Brady Bill to President Clinton and he signs it into law, then the door will be wide open for further gun control legislation. Of course, we hope that's true because, as you know, our campaign to enact a National Gun Policy to combat gun violence doesn't end with the Brady Bill - it just begins. - Sarah Brady, HCI newsletter 1993-03
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Mr. Speaker, my bill prohibits the importation, exportation, manufacture, sale, purchase, transfer, receipt, possession, or transportation of handguns and handgun ammunition. It establishes a 6-month grace period for the turning in of handguns. It provides many exceptions for gun clubs, hunting clubs, gun collectors, and other people of that kind. - Major Owens, Representative (D-Brooklyn, NY)
(1983–2007), Congressional Record H9088 at H9094 1993-11-10
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Banning guns is an idea whose time has come. - Senator Joseph Biden, AP 1993-11-18
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Our goal is to not allow anybody to buy a handgun. In the meantime, we think there ought to be strict licensing and regulation. Ultimately, that may mean it would require court approval to buy a handgun. - Michael K. Beard, President of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Washington Times, p. A1 1993-12-06
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Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal. - Janet Reno, U.S. Attorney General (1993–2001) 1993-12-10
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We must get rid of all the guns. - Sarah Brady, Phil Donahue Show 1994
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Senator Dianne Feinstein: "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out-right ban, picking up every one of them... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here." - CBS "60 Minutes", February 5, 1995
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In fact, the assault weapons ban will have no significant effect either on the crime rate or on personal security. Nonetheless, it is a good idea... Ultimately, a civilized society must disarm its citizenry if it is to have a modicum of domestic tranquility of the kind enjoyed by sister democracies such as Canada and Britain. Given the frontier history and individualist ideology of the Unisted States, however, this will not come easily. It certainly cannot be done radically. It will probably take one, maybe two generations. It might be 50 years before the United States gets to where Britain is today. Passing a law like the assault weapons ban is a symbolic -- purely symbolic -- move in that direction. Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation. - Charles Krauthammer, Disarm the Citizenry, But Not Yet Washington Post 1996-04-05
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Time national correspondent Jack E. White one-upped Mr. Thomas: "Whatever is being proposed is way too namby-pamby. I mean, for example, we're talking about limiting people to one gun purchase or handgun purchase a month. Why not just ban the ownership of handguns when nobody needs one? Why not just ban semi-automatic rifles? Nobody needs one." - L. Brent Bozell III, Lock-and-Load Mode Against the 2nd, Washington Times, 1999-05-08
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Repealing the Second Amendment is no cause for the faint-hearted, but it remains the only way for liberals to trigger an honest debate on the future of our bullet-plagued society. So what if anti-gun advocates have to devote the next 15 or 20 years to the struggle? The cause is worth the political pain. Failing to take bold action condemns all of us to spend our lives cringing in terror every time we hear a car backfire. - Walter Shapiro, columnist USA Today, 1999-09-17
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When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans... And so a lot of people say theres too much personal freedom. When personal freedoms being abused, you have to move to limit it. Thats what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how were going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities. - Bill Clinton

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The constitution is a radical document. It is the job of government to reign in people's rights. - Bill Clinton
Seriously, how many times do you need to be knocked down before you realize someone is trying to knock you out. "Scare tactics", hardly, there is a known entity and a clear agenda.

Some other opinions.

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“What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.” — Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356

“No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” — Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334, [C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950]
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“That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms … ” — Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, at 86-87 (Pierce & Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)
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“Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms … The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard, against the tyranny which now appears remote in America but which historically has proven to be always possible.” — Hubert H. Humphrey, Senator, Vice President, 22 October 1959
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