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prdubi · 10-03-2008, 09:55

yes...I've met Fortier myself a couple of times, he was a good friend of my Uncle's best friend. Charles Karwan, while Fortier is not the noted sicked gun nut like Karwan, I like his writings and various articles.

I salute you for what you said, all I am saying from my limited experience is that the Dragunov is capable....but I AM not gonna say..that it's a PALMA rifle it in itself nor is it better than our system with the m24 and m40 series and even the m21.

I could bet you to the moon that your experience back in 1983 would have been vastly different if you were using the sniper ammo made(7N1) SPECIFICALLY for that rifle or were you guys using it or just standard ball or special hand loads ?

Curious on that.

I'm not trying to piss in anyone's cornflakes or do a measuring contest on our wieners......for some special watering hole but I do congrat you for being a participant in that 1983 incident.

I'm just saying it's capable of sub or near sub MOA if the right ammo is used. I've seen it only once and that was in Hungary and the British Marines that came to Hungary brought their lovely AI setup...which still danced around the Drag despite the ammo.

While there are far better play sticks to use in the field...if the Dragunov is all I got....it'll do decently....

I rest with humble regards...

10-03-2008, 09:55	#14
prdubi Asset Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orygun Posts: 10	nice yes...I've met Fortier myself a couple of times, he was a good friend of my Uncle's best friend. Charles Karwan, while Fortier is not the noted sicked gun nut like Karwan, I like his writings and various articles. I salute you for what you said, all I am saying from my limited experience is that the Dragunov is capable....but I AM not gonna say..that it's a PALMA rifle it in itself nor is it better than our system with the m24 and m40 series and even the m21. I could bet you to the moon that your experience back in 1983 would have been vastly different if you were using the sniper ammo made(7N1) SPECIFICALLY for that rifle or were you guys using it or just standard ball or special hand loads ? Curious on that. I'm not trying to piss in anyone's cornflakes or do a measuring contest on our wieners......for some special watering hole but I do congrat you for being a participant in that 1983 incident. I'm just saying it's capable of sub or near sub MOA if the right ammo is used. I've seen it only once and that was in Hungary and the British Marines that came to Hungary brought their lovely AI setup...which still danced around the Drag despite the ammo. While there are far better play sticks to use in the field...if the Dragunov is all I got....it'll do decently.... I rest with humble regards...
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