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Originally Posted by x SF med
TR,
I agree with your assessment of the bullpup design and ergonomics, I actually like the feel and design of the M16/M4 style of weapon - my belief is that with the shortening of barrels to carbine and less, accuracy is removed for shots over 150-200m (I know that average current engagement distances are something below this range due to the high levels of MOUT). But then again, I believe that optics should be added/trained AFTER complete proficiency with iron sights out to and including 300m targets, I'm a dinosaur in that respect.
Not being a weapons designer, just an end user, I do think there are viable upgrades to the current US combat rifle systems that will increase efficiency and accuracy - closed gas systems, better optics, etc.
I guess my big question is - How do we get there from here? It will be even tougher with the Navy in most of the high level leadership positions.
Just venting, I guess.
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The M-4 provides adequate combat accuracy at all ranges. The length of the barrel is not a factor. You can shoot matches with 10" barrels, if you wanted. The shorter barrel does two things. It shortens the sight radius, which is only significant for iron sights, and it reduces the muzzle velocity significantly, making range estimation (and lethality) much more critical.
The real problem is the accuracy of the M855/M856 ammunition. The majority of the "poor accuracy" complaints I have seen have been from people who did not know how to shoot.
TR
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