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Originally Posted by ccrn

LMT will sell me a base carbine with "no bells or whistles" (their words) for 1050.00 which is their mil discount for me.

Thats before I get a FFL to place the order and recieve it for me not to mention waiting months to get it. Interestingly all but one of the FFLs on the LMT website for my state no longer carry their product.

Id most likely prefer a 1/9 twist as much of the ammo Id shoot (for practice) will not be the heavier grain-

My apologies for not being clear. You have to go to a specific dealer, not the factory. The cop I spoke with bought his complete LMT carbine from Pete at ar15salesDOTcom. Give him a call and tell him you are mil and are calling in reference to his ad here: wwwDOTar15DOTcom/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=21&t=255335. I have purchased two LMT lowers from him and am a satisfied customer.

Just as a point of reference, here's the breakdown on my pieced together new LMT carbine:
- Defender 2000 lower, single stage trigger, Tango Down grip (now Ergo), Gen II M4 stock on a mil-spec tube (with the castle nut staked at the factory, just like Colt), $330 shipped from Pete, plus $15 local FFL transfer fee. See if he will discount the two-stage trigger and SOPMOD stock for you.
- 16" M4 upper, bolt carrier group (properly staked gas key, also just like Colt), charging handle, plus DPMS CAR handguards, $572 shipped from a different dealer.
- Total out the door, $917, with no sights. And I remember the cop telling me he got his rifle cheaper with his LEO discount from Pete. When you compare Pete's price, remember it includes the LMT rear BUIS, which is around $120. You are also getting one 30rd mag, a sling, and a manual, none of which is included in my price.