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82ndtrooper · 03-15-2007, 21:23

Although I'm not a QP I do have two Surefire Tac-lights that are weapon mounted to pistols. Both the Surefire Nitrolon and a Military series 6 volt with momentary pressure pad illumination and constant On/Off shuttle switch. Both lights are hard duty use and capable of being submeged to 90 ft in water.

For a civillian and home defense there is legal conundrum with the use of a weapon mounted white light instrument. Pitfall number 1: With a weapon mounted white light the muzzle will almost alway's be pointed in the direction of the intended or uninteded target. In most states this is considered assault when the muzzle is pointed at an individual. If my son brings a friend home after a night of drinking and decides to relieve his beer filled blatter in the middle of the night, it's possible to mistake his roaming for an intruder and the use of the weapon mounted light requires the muzzle to be pointed in his or her direction. This can be seen as negligent and or assualt. It's a slippery slope for civillians in a litigious society.

The pros to the weapon mounted light on a pistol are obvious. First, the weapon mounted light allows the use of both hands during a night time intruder scenario. Turning on lights, opening doors, and secondary weapons, if needed. With a separate hand held light, the ease of just opening a door is more cumbersome. The second advantage is having the free hand loose for leashing your home protection dog during your home patrol and control of the dog should you need to restrain him or her when the house is found to be clear or not clear. Police have found a weapon mounted light on a pistol for dog handlers to be necessary during various types of scenarios where the pistol will be drawn from the holster during low light and dark encounters. With a separate hand held light, the dog is obviously not under the owners control without having to leash both the light and the dog to your free hand. This is why I use a wrist leash for the hand held light should I need to walk the halls of the house in an intruder scenario. On the other hand, just turn all lights on in the house hold that are available If power has been cut, then the weapon mounted light or hand held light is your saving grace.

I also have a replacement fore end Surefire tac-light for the Benelli M1 Super 90 with constant on/off switch and momentary illumination pressure pad on the right side of the fore end. This is again the conundrum with having white light mounted to the weapon and civillian use. Use white light sparingly and only if necessary. The white light can become a bullet sponge and give your postition away to the home intruder, just as it would in an aircraft hanger or dark hooch in the military. I have red filter adapters for all the Surefire weapon mounted lights that I own.

Surefire has discontinued their Nitrolon and their Military series lights for pistols and are now only selling the X200 as TR explained. The X200 is also available with the slim line momentary illumination pad for most makes and models of pistols that you may own and including the Beretta 92fs (M9) The X200 is smaller, as powerful, and as durable as the military series and the Nitolon series lights that used to be Surefires staple lights for pistols.

You cant go wrong with the X200 and they do have an rail adapter for the Beretta 92fs (M9) if your duty weapon does not have the new Beretta built in rail (92A2 model)

HTH from the civillian point of view.

03-15-2007, 21:23	#3
82ndtrooper BANNED USER Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,189	Not a QP but .............. Although I'm not a QP I do have two Surefire Tac-lights that are weapon mounted to pistols. Both the Surefire Nitrolon and a Military series 6 volt with momentary pressure pad illumination and constant On/Off shuttle switch. Both lights are hard duty use and capable of being submeged to 90 ft in water. For a civillian and home defense there is legal conundrum with the use of a weapon mounted white light instrument. Pitfall number 1: With a weapon mounted white light the muzzle will almost alway's be pointed in the direction of the intended or uninteded target. In most states this is considered assault when the muzzle is pointed at an individual. If my son brings a friend home after a night of drinking and decides to relieve his beer filled blatter in the middle of the night, it's possible to mistake his roaming for an intruder and the use of the weapon mounted light requires the muzzle to be pointed in his or her direction. This can be seen as negligent and or assualt. It's a slippery slope for civillians in a litigious society. The pros to the weapon mounted light on a pistol are obvious. First, the weapon mounted light allows the use of both hands during a night time intruder scenario. Turning on lights, opening doors, and secondary weapons, if needed. With a separate hand held light, the ease of just opening a door is more cumbersome. The second advantage is having the free hand loose for leashing your home protection dog during your home patrol and control of the dog should you need to restrain him or her when the house is found to be clear or not clear. Police have found a weapon mounted light on a pistol for dog handlers to be necessary during various types of scenarios where the pistol will be drawn from the holster during low light and dark encounters. With a separate hand held light, the dog is obviously not under the owners control without having to leash both the light and the dog to your free hand. This is why I use a wrist leash for the hand held light should I need to walk the halls of the house in an intruder scenario. On the other hand, just turn all lights on in the house hold that are available If power has been cut, then the weapon mounted light or hand held light is your saving grace. I also have a replacement fore end Surefire tac-light for the Benelli M1 Super 90 with constant on/off switch and momentary illumination pressure pad on the right side of the fore end. This is again the conundrum with having white light mounted to the weapon and civillian use. Use white light sparingly and only if necessary. The white light can become a bullet sponge and give your postition away to the home intruder, just as it would in an aircraft hanger or dark hooch in the military. I have red filter adapters for all the Surefire weapon mounted lights that I own. Surefire has discontinued their Nitrolon and their Military series lights for pistols and are now only selling the X200 as TR explained. The X200 is also available with the slim line momentary illumination pad for most makes and models of pistols that you may own and including the Beretta 92fs (M9) The X200 is smaller, as powerful, and as durable as the military series and the Nitolon series lights that used to be Surefires staple lights for pistols. You cant go wrong with the X200 and they do have an rail adapter for the Beretta 92fs (M9) if your duty weapon does not have the new Beretta built in rail (92A2 model) HTH from the civillian point of view.
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