Peregrino and spectre,
I agree with everything you said 100%, you could also say I have lost hope in anyone with power in this country taking us back to our roots so to speak when it comes to our RIGHTS!!!
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
Your use of the driver's license to illustrate your point is "interesting". Driving is not a right - it's a priviledge and subject to revocation for just about any reason the government or its agents choose.
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I knew this when I wrote what is said, and your again 100% right that driving is a privilege and the 2nd amendment is the RIGHT to bear arms.
My goal with such a bill as the one I described above would be to get us as close to our roots as I could in this modern world.
Maybe a slightly better question is how do we sell this in today’s political environment?
My thought was, although it has many weaknesses, a few of which were just pointed out, is how can we package a licensing system so that we can look at all the anti-gun-lost-libs… and say “see look I have the license you approved, I have a background check, I have had a safety class…Now shut-up, fall in, or get out of my way” yet make that license easy to get for ALL law abiding and mentally stable citizens AND make is very very hard for the government to take away…
Again, in case I have not made myself clear, I personally think the U.S. Constitution said it all, and I am NOT for big government getting in to every corner of my life. But I have lost hope that we, as a nation, will ever drift back to that document the trend to “get away from that old document that just can’t keep up with the times anymore,” as I once heard a professor say to a group of very young very impressionable college freshmen, is just so strong… it is really very sad.
So… what could we do, as Americans, as citizens not subjects…yet…
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Originally Posted by 82ndtrooper
Find a staunch pro 2nd Amendment candidate, and I'll show you a sure fire loser in 2008. George Bush won by 4,000,000 votes in the popular vote. Is it any coincidence that the NRA has roughly 4,000,000 members ? Perhaps, but my guess is most of the NRA types fall into the "Jim Zumbo" camp and HR1022 is not a threat to them, at least as they see it. After all, Zumbo doesn't own an AR15, AK, SKS, etc. Only till this last two weeks is he suddendly going to accept Ted Nugents request to join him on a hunting trip with an "Assault Rifle" Go for it Jim, you career is over anyway.
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JPH
