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Old 01-19-2007, 20:04   #31
lksteve
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
First, not everyone is troll-sized. I used to carry your full body weight in my ruck.
first he needs ritalin, now he's a troll...where's the love...?

but back to the question du jour...a 50# ruck, 20km, 3hrs...EIB standards...i suspect that would be a point of departure for determining fitness for a dismounted infantry type...heck, i seem to recall a speed march was 5 miles, 50minutes, LCE and weapon...that's another task-oriented test...

to me the test isn't as much the issue as the mind set...the PT test, as it stood when i was in, was no less combat related than the weapons qualification tables we fired from a concrete lined foxhole...both are raw indicators of fitness and marksmanship proficiency at a minimal standard...

i am not comfortable that Big Army can direct the necessary training at unit level...a mountain detachment's conditioning requirements are very different from a combat swim detachment's (speaking of areas where i have experience, here)...a mountain teams's conditioning requirements for winter ops are a little different than they are for summer ops...

i would opine that commanders at the operational level (A-detachment) should be given the latitude and held accountable for that training...

my $0.02...
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