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FearTheCats · 01-08-2007, 12:51

Yes, x_SF_med, I agree with learning irons first and training on them regularly. I shoot highpower competition with my match AR so I get practice at 200, 300, and 600 yards. I still stick with irons when shooting bullseye pistol, not least because that is what you must master to go Distinguished. If you can do irons, you can DO optics, but not always the other way around.

82ndtrooper, the Short Dot is among the more forgiving optics in the eye relief department. You can move it fore and aft in the LaRue mount, and try different collapsible stock positions, until you find the sweet spot. It's true that you can buy about two ACOGs ($900-1100 list price) for the price of one Short Dot ($2200 list price). This is not always how to make a good purchasing decision, e.g., I can buy eight Lorcin .380s for the price of the TRP 1911 I carry on duty, but why would I?

I have no experience with the ACOG and therefore no opinion on the ACOG, other than to note (1) all models are fixed magnification. The USMC RCO is 4x and not what I would prefer for 25m and in. Compact ACOGs are available in 1.5x which is not what I would prefer for 50m and out; and (2) ACOGs are tritium powered and battery-free, but they are not immortal. Short Dots use a $7 watch battery that lasts for months. Should the battery run out, I can replace it in one minute. Should I not have one minute or another battery, my Short Dot is still a riflescope with a simple helpful reticle. I think I've made the right choice and I'll bet my Short Dot outlives any weapon I put it on.

I can't comment on LE precision rifles and optics, having no experience with those either. Then again, it's academic because I'm not authorized to carry bolt rifles on patrol. Whether or not my AR is optimum for every task, it's the only game in town and I must learn to win with it. I know I can reliably hit opponents located anywhere from the end of the flash suppressor to 100m downrange with what I have, so I'm deliriously happy.

I just try to get the most suitable equipment I can, and learn to win with it at any task I might encounter. This thread is supposed to be about the Short Dot, and based on my experience so far, my Short Dot is a reliable force multiplier for my patrol carbine; I'd buy it all over again; and I'd recommend it to anybody for that mission.

01-08-2007, 12:51	#14
FearTheCats Asset Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bladen County NC Posts: 24	Yes, x_SF_med, I agree with learning irons first and training on them regularly. I shoot highpower competition with my match AR so I get practice at 200, 300, and 600 yards. I still stick with irons when shooting bullseye pistol, not least because that is what you must master to go Distinguished. If you can do irons, you can DO optics, but not always the other way around. 82ndtrooper, the Short Dot is among the more forgiving optics in the eye relief department. You can move it fore and aft in the LaRue mount, and try different collapsible stock positions, until you find the sweet spot. It's true that you can buy about two ACOGs ($900-1100 list price) for the price of one Short Dot ($2200 list price). This is not always how to make a good purchasing decision, e.g., I can buy eight Lorcin .380s for the price of the TRP 1911 I carry on duty, but why would I? I have no experience with the ACOG and therefore no opinion on the ACOG, other than to note (1) all models are fixed magnification. The USMC RCO is 4x and not what I would prefer for 25m and in. Compact ACOGs are available in 1.5x which is not what I would prefer for 50m and out; and (2) ACOGs are tritium powered and battery-free, but they are not immortal. Short Dots use a $7 watch battery that lasts for months. Should the battery run out, I can replace it in one minute. Should I not have one minute or another battery, my Short Dot is still a riflescope with a simple helpful reticle. I think I've made the right choice and I'll bet my Short Dot outlives any weapon I put it on. I can't comment on LE precision rifles and optics, having no experience with those either. Then again, it's academic because I'm not authorized to carry bolt rifles on patrol. Whether or not my AR is optimum for every task, it's the only game in town and I must learn to win with it. I know I can reliably hit opponents located anywhere from the end of the flash suppressor to 100m downrange with what I have, so I'm deliriously happy. I just try to get the most suitable equipment I can, and learn to win with it at any task I might encounter. This thread is supposed to be about the Short Dot, and based on my experience so far, my Short Dot is a reliable force multiplier for my patrol carbine; I'd buy it all over again; and I'd recommend it to anybody for that mission.
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