You can't ever get everyone to agree, hence the 80% solution, but I think in this case, the admin could do better than what they have with a little change in delivery.
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I agree with you NDD. But do you see the need to change the context of the discussion? To reforge our policy on the anvil of self-interest?
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Sorry, I missed this somehow. Well, according to the chants of those not on board, the context of the discussion on Iraq was WMD. Since WMD has not been produced, they feel vindicated. Granted, there will always be a point of contention, if not WMD then something else. granted, alot of this is about the man, not the situaiton. Granted, their point is invalid as far as I'm concerned. I think he had them and I think we will find them.
My point is, how did WMD become the context of the discussion?
Grossly oversimplified example:
Message - We are taking out Sadaam Hussein
Audience/Delivery:
1. Libs - we are taking out Sadaam Hussein for the same humanitarian reasons Clinton went in to Kosovo and Haiti.
2. RW - we are taking out SH because he is a terrorist aider and abettor and may have WMD.
3. Shiites - we're taking out SH because you, as a minority, have no voice and he and his sons were killing your people. Start thinking about what you want. No Sharia state and Iran is next if you can't get right.
4. Sunnis - we're taking out SH because he was a secular tyrant, but you will not have a Sharia law state. Start thinking about what you want.
5. Kurds - we're taking out SH. Start thinking about what you want - Kurdistan ain't on the table and we won't protect you from the Turks.
6. England - we're taking out SH because he gave all the oil contracts to the Phrench. Tell BP to get ready, but they have to hire one Iraqi for every Brit they send over. OBTW, he may have WMD and he is aiding and abetting terrorism.
7. Israel - We're taking out SH. Stay out of it.
8. Syria/Iran - We're taking out SH because of the same kind of shit you're doing. Get involved, move up on the list. North Korea is none of your fookin' business.
9. EU - We're taking out SH. Shutup.
10. UN - We're taking out Sh. Shutup. Or we'll put the FBI on the Oil for Food program and revoke your diplo parking permits and immunity.
11. All - We're taking out SH. Everybody that voted no, give us one good reason why not so we can start investigating your links to his regime.
Now, this is pretty much the way it went. Except for a couple of groups. You can't sell WMD to the left, because they don't think anybody but the US would ever actually use them. The message never changed in the example. Just the focus on a cause.