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Originally Posted by 112thSOLCA
TR – Sir
I will preference this post by saying that in the last two years I have read hundreds of your posts and usually agree 100% with everything you say. However, I find myself very much aligned with NDD on this topic.
In fact, I interpret your posts to be somewhat contradictory in nature.
If I understand you correctly you are trying to say shooting an undetermined number of bad guys running through the halls of a school with innocents all around is static defensive shooting. I believe NDD’s position would be it is in fact CQB.
Secondly, you point out that many law enforcement professionals (including the FBI HRT) in this country are not up to tactical standards. Yet you believe school teachers can be trained during their summer vacation to an adequate tactical standard. I understand we are talking about two different levels of standards but I would submit to you that they are closer together than you think when it comes to having the mindset, ability and fortitude to take decisive action.
I believe a more realistic solution is to educate all teachers in anti-terrorism techniques and employ dedicated professionals that are adequately trained and experienced to handle the counter-terrorism actions (anti-terrorism being everything you do to prevent being involved in an attack and counter-terrorism is everything done to defeat the attack once initiated).
I would guess putting one or two retired military or LEO professionals on staff at a local high school would cost no more than training and incentive paying select faculty members. In my opinion the overall level of security would be much better than anything you could produce from the educator side of the fence.
Respectfully
112thSOLCA
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112th:
I believe that this is the fourth or fifith time I have said that the teacher with the gun stays in the classroom. Perhaps I am not speaking English here. Good thing Peregrino said the same thing again.
The assaults/raids I have seen conducted by the HRT have not been sterling successes. On the other hand, they are the premier HR team for CONUS employment, if you can wait for them to arrive. In an active shooter scenario, it should be over in minutes, an hour tops, which is well before they will marshal and get to the scene. The local LEOs (or, if in an urban area with short response times, the local SWAT unit) will likely have to execute an in-extremis assault, which they are largely unprepared for, but the odds beat doing nothing particularly when I again reiterate, they are likely going up against a HS punk or loser, not Rambo or a jihadi squad. Again, I believe that a properly trained teacher can secure a weapon, open a locked container, make the weapon ready, and hold a classroom against such opposition.
I am not sure where your kids go to school and what your teachers are like, but I suspect that at least a couple can be found at every school around here who would be willing and competent to take up this challenge.
Agree that an unknown number of citizens and faculty are armed on the school grounds in violation of the law every day, and I have not seen any of them losing their minds (or guns) and killing kids wantonly.
Thanks Peregrino for posting a better explanation of my points than I have apparently been able to produce.
TR