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funnyman · 08-09-2006, 22:26

I live in the North East. Most of my friends (the civilians) are left-wing nuts. Most of my Army buddies and myself are either Republican, Independent or Constitutionalists. At lunch one day, a good friend's wife told me in an angry outburst, "we (America) should just mind our own business" with respect to Iraq. She and the other lefty friends of mine (who I don't really seem to hang around with anymore..) are all highly educated and successful. They drive to work in their SUVs or BMWs, get a Starbucks, and work behind a desk all day. Not that there's anything wrong with that because I do that too. The difference is that they're blinded by their self-imposed social eliteness. They can't imagine that there are people who *don't* drink lattes and surf the web all day. They imagine a perfect world where there is no evil, no starvation, no war, no genocide. They argue that the war in Iraq is about oil, but they don't stop for a second to think about how their lives would be changed without that oil - or with oil at 3X the current price. They say that the GWOT is creating terrorists, without conceeding that terrorists hated us before we invaded Iraq. They actually think we deserved 911, yet they continue the daily activities that supposedly justified 911. They don't believe that all over the world, (insert politically correct term dejour for nut-job Islamics) are engaged in a full-time job of planning our deaths. These Americans are exactly the isolationist/pacifists that the previous post mentioned. They're idealists. Their idealism needs to be tempered by realism. So what will take our present-day pacifists to wake up as they did for WWII? Maybe if Al-Qaida nukes the local Starbucks

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When they say we shoudn't have gone into Iraq because it's not part of the GWOT, I ask them this: what would you do if your neighbor told you they wanted to kill you and your family. You saw that neighbor unloading AK-47s from a U-Haul truck. Would you call the police, or just say "oh well, it's his right to hate me. I'm sure I must've done something to offend him. If he kills my family we deserve it" and watch as your family is mauled? The conversation always ends there. I say kill the enemy in HIS house, before he breaks into mine.

Part of the problem with the isolationist/pacifists here is that the US has become a society that's afraid to stand up for what's right. When I was young, if I swore in public, any nearby adult would chastize me. Today, every teen walks around dropping F-bombs and no one says a thing. We're afraid to spank our misbehaving children for fear of being sued by the ACLU. We let burglers sue owners because the burgler got hurt breaking into the owner's home. We've become so politically correct that we're afraid to take sides on the smallest issues for fear of being labeled a racist or intolerant. As a society, we've got to get back some moral fiber if we don't want this great country of ours to end up in the shitter.

For what I believe are biblical reasons, there is evil in this world. And it needs to be put to rest. There's lots of it, so it's good we got started.

Just my $.02
-FM

08-09-2006, 22:26	#639
funnyman Asset Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Meatspace Posts: 31	I live in the North East. Most of my friends (the civilians) are left-wing nuts. Most of my Army buddies and myself are either Republican, Independent or Constitutionalists. At lunch one day, a good friend's wife told me in an angry outburst, "we (America) should just mind our own business" with respect to Iraq. She and the other lefty friends of mine (who I don't really seem to hang around with anymore..) are all highly educated and successful. They drive to work in their SUVs or BMWs, get a Starbucks, and work behind a desk all day. Not that there's anything wrong with that because I do that too. The difference is that they're blinded by their self-imposed social eliteness. They can't imagine that there are people who don't drink lattes and surf the web all day. They imagine a perfect world where there is no evil, no starvation, no war, no genocide. They argue that the war in Iraq is about oil, but they don't stop for a second to think about how their lives would be changed without that oil - or with oil at 3X the current price. They say that the GWOT is creating terrorists, without conceeding that terrorists hated us before we invaded Iraq. They actually think we deserved 911, yet they continue the daily activities that supposedly justified 911. They don't believe that all over the world, (insert politically correct term dejour for nut-job Islamics) are engaged in a full-time job of planning our deaths. These Americans are exactly the isolationist/pacifists that the previous post mentioned. They're idealists. Their idealism needs to be tempered by realism. So what will take our present-day pacifists to wake up as they did for WWII? Maybe if Al-Qaida nukes the local Starbucks . When they say we shoudn't have gone into Iraq because it's not part of the GWOT, I ask them this: what would you do if your neighbor told you they wanted to kill you and your family. You saw that neighbor unloading AK-47s from a U-Haul truck. Would you call the police, or just say "oh well, it's his right to hate me. I'm sure I must've done something to offend him. If he kills my family we deserve it" and watch as your family is mauled? The conversation always ends there. I say kill the enemy in HIS house, before he breaks into mine. Part of the problem with the isolationist/pacifists here is that the US has become a society that's afraid to stand up for what's right. When I was young, if I swore in public, any nearby adult would chastize me. Today, every teen walks around dropping F-bombs and no one says a thing. We're afraid to spank our misbehaving children for fear of being sued by the ACLU. We let burglers sue owners because the burgler got hurt breaking into the owner's home. We've become so politically correct that we're afraid to take sides on the smallest issues for fear of being labeled a racist or intolerant. As a society, we've got to get back some moral fiber if we don't want this great country of ours to end up in the shitter. For what I believe are biblical reasons, there is evil in this world. And it needs to be put to rest. There's lots of it, so it's good we got started. Just my $.02 -FM Last edited by funnyman; 08-09-2006 at 22:29.
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