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**The Reaper** · 07-08-2006, 08:18

Okay, I guess I'll give it a shot.

Looks like a stack of artillery projos, I would guess 122mm or 152mm. Most appear to be unfused or have had the fuzes removed. That means that they are safe to handle. Any with fuzes remaining are potential explosive frag hazards. This looks like a clean-up dump point. As they are right now, this is an IED bomber's treasure trove, enough stuff there to keep him in business for years.

Once you have verified the rounds are HE, as they appear to be (don't want to create a nice Sarin clowd or even just a bunch of WP starting wildfires), the unfuzed ones can be removed and laid out in rows for destruction. If the area was safe and destruction in place were desired, you could, with a lot of hassle, risk of some flying away, and probably some missed rounds, place C-4 on each round you could reach, dual prime, and BIP.

Personally, I would prefer to put them in rows for better management, place M-112 charge blocks of C-4 across the rounds and prime normally. I would be cautious as it would be very simple to have set this up as an EOD killer with either a command detonated or boobytrapped round underneath witing for the team to arrive. It does look abandoned though.

Any with fuzes could be any of a variety of arty fuzes, most likely impact. Once laid out, the MSD would be that of the arty rounds, unless the Net Explosive Weight of the shot exceeded the arty MSD. I would go with the further of these two numbers.

You can safely move the unfuzed rounds by any means desired, to include a bucket loader or a mule.

If possible, I would BIP any of the rounds that still had fuzes.

HTH.

TR

07-08-2006, 08:18	#113
The Reaper Quiet Professional Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Free Pineland Posts: 24,829	Okay, I guess I'll give it a shot. Looks like a stack of artillery projos, I would guess 122mm or 152mm. Most appear to be unfused or have had the fuzes removed. That means that they are safe to handle. Any with fuzes remaining are potential explosive frag hazards. This looks like a clean-up dump point. As they are right now, this is an IED bomber's treasure trove, enough stuff there to keep him in business for years. Once you have verified the rounds are HE, as they appear to be (don't want to create a nice Sarin clowd or even just a bunch of WP starting wildfires), the unfuzed ones can be removed and laid out in rows for destruction. If the area was safe and destruction in place were desired, you could, with a lot of hassle, risk of some flying away, and probably some missed rounds, place C-4 on each round you could reach, dual prime, and BIP. Personally, I would prefer to put them in rows for better management, place M-112 charge blocks of C-4 across the rounds and prime normally. I would be cautious as it would be very simple to have set this up as an EOD killer with either a command detonated or boobytrapped round underneath witing for the team to arrive. It does look abandoned though. Any with fuzes could be any of a variety of arty fuzes, most likely impact. Once laid out, the MSD would be that of the arty rounds, unless the Net Explosive Weight of the shot exceeded the arty MSD. I would go with the further of these two numbers. You can safely move the unfuzed rounds by any means desired, to include a bucket loader or a mule. If possible, I would BIP any of the rounds that still had fuzes. HTH. TR __________________ "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910 De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
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