[TheRealChuck]

Team Sergeant: Roger!

Stan:

Has it been that long? I just checked and you are correct, our email exchange took place in Jan 2004. I did not "stretch the rationalized time frame." The material was correct and in your own words, and I have seen nothing to indicate that your position as it pertains to any of the information you provided me had changed. This is not a new discussion. As you have just confirmed, it has been going on for over two years on various forums to include AR-15, Lightfighter, and TacticalForums.

As I stated previously, a 90 grain BMT round compared to a 147 grain JHP, is not an accurate comparison. Our email conversation does not indicate it, but unless I am mistaken, your video compared a 185 grain speer Golddot with a 90 grain BMT. If LeMas is somehow different, then the correct comparison is a 90 grain BMT round against a conventional 90 grain JHP fired at the same velocities! Otherwise, this goes back to nothing more than an argument over ballistics paradigms, heavy slow with deep penetration vs. fast light with large temporary cavities (and with sufficient velocity, tissue fragmentation).

If the paradigm is so effective, then any ammunition manufacturer can load a 90 grain bullet in a .40 (or 9mm), load it hot and achieve similar results.

NousDefionsDoc: I have no knowledge of animal testing other than those mentioned here. I do not believe any other live animal testing has been done. I would be interested to see a scientifically conducted test, following established protocols, too.

Chuck