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Originally Posted by hoepoe
Ok Brenneke has come a long way since i last used a shotgun, this is what i found n their site with regards to a suitable slug:
Tactical Home Defense 12 / 2¾”
Weight: 1 oz.
Barrel: all types
Range: up to 35 yards
Use: Home defense / law enforcement, deer sized game
* Original BRENNEKE Slug “Bronze” with newly developed unique patented B.E.T.-wad
* flat trajectory
* good accuracy
* allows quick, accurate follow up shots if needed
* good knock down power
* controlled penetration / low risk of dangerous exiting
* designed for urban use
* proven for law enforcement
* most comfotable for recoil sensitive shooters
Hoepoe
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What about this one (see attachment)? I agree a slug is a good choice, if you have ample time to setup your shot. 00 Buck gives a little better hit probability and creates multiple wound channels. But increased distance creates a misplaced round or pellet with multiple projos (think of kids or other innocents).
I tested the 12 ga Hornady SST slugs at 5, 10 and 25 yards on 1 gallon water jugs. They explode violently and fragment the jug pretty well. Test gun was a Remington 1100 Competition Master.
How this correlates jugs to dogs, the round is designed for deer hunting. Deer hide is a little tougher (OK, alot tougher) than a dogs. The jug is about 10 times tougher than dog skin. The jug lacks elasticity, dog skin is really elastic (more so in bulldogs, pit bulls, and other bull terrier breeds) than others ie. greyhounds, chihuahuas (be afraid, be very afraid).
There is no perfect solution, multiple ones would work. Using ammo that is designed to frag like LeMas would be great to incapacitate and kill a dog. But remember that the ammo you use on the dog is likely to be used on the perp (I have no problem, lawyers may).
OK, so TS has given the deaf, blind dog an opportunity to play (the ACLU would be happy). Slip him a Ruffi-Coloda and monkey-stomp him. OK I have no answer for that except humanely send this dog to the big kennel in the sky. Admit it, he's deaf and blind, he's not a dog anymore. He's an area rug with a pulse, put him out of his misery.
Edit to add: This Hornady slug does a number on deer, I think it's a bit overboard, but in the un-gun-friendly state of Maryland it's about all a hunter can use. It really tenderizes the meat in the shoulder and renders a good portion of it unusable because it's too bruised or infused with copper jacketing. Cutting my mouth up eating venison jerky is not my idea of a fun time. I grew up in southern MO, we used noting bigger than the 300 Win Mag. I use a 7mm Rem Mag, I hate chasing them across creation and pulling them out of the briar patch.