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Originally Posted by rubberneck
Yet another informative thread. I do have one question. As you stated here you guys are trained to employ your weapons in an offensive manner so how does that impact training with a former SOF especially if they don't have a LEO background as well? After all you guys are trained to fight in ways that no civilian can employ and expect a jury to later accquit your actions.
If you chose an instructor that has been trained with one set of ROE's in mind, to the point where his actions are second nature, is it likely that they can modify their training in a manner inconsistant with their training? I hope this makes sense.
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Valid point. First there is a difference between SOF and Special Forces. SF is a more restrictive subset of SOF. We are selected and employed differently than regular SOF, e.g. everybody from Rangers to CA/PSYOP. One of the primary issues is mental flexibility. That means ability to adapt to the environment - not just a set of programmed reflexes. We live with ROE (rules of engagement) as a matter of course. The "defensive" scenarios you refer to are just a more restrictive ROE. Any instructor that can't shift gears to the environment he's teaching in might not (probably does not) have the breadth of experience required to provide a well rounded course of instruction. And as TS stated earlier what does the instructor's formal training CV look like. If you are seeking formal "I paid good money for this stuff" instruction then your instructor should have the NRA certs and whatever the local gov't requires for CCW permits. In NC I know for a fact that certification requires a comprehensive grounding in the "Use of Force" options/requirements (and my instructor was quite happy to cover the costs of getting it wrong - course he's a lawyer and his instructor was Masaad Ayoob so he was a little heavy handed about it - for good reason BTW). Don't get confused about tactics and techniques, offense and defense. Once you've mastered fundamentals, the rest is application. The "warrior mindset" that governs how you apply those skills applies equally to offensive and defensive situations. Besides - what any instructor teaches you is just another tool/skill set. How you integrate and apply that information is ultimately your responsibility. My .02 - Peregrino