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swatsurgeon 02-15-2005 17:50

Bringing it all together
 
Tomorrow I'll present a case that will utilize many of the issues discussed in recent threads....this will include not just medical issues but others as well.
Something to ponder until I upload the pics and story tomorrow (around 10 am EST).....
stay tuned for an act of bravery, self preservation and guts.
I'm sure the QP's will offer other words as well.

swatsurgeon 02-16-2005 05:42

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He's the scenerio.....
40 something year old male trapped under his car for 3 hrs. Car is sitting on his hand, no one responds to his calls for help. He needs his medications (he has multiple medical problems) and knows he needs to get free soon or he could develop serious problems and likely die. Takes out his pocket knife and self amputates his hand, snaps the bones by standing up quickly, walks back to his house (~500-700 yrds), calls 911 and is brought to us.....awake, alert, 'dealing with the pain. Was very glad he keeps his knife sharp...I have to find out what knife it was.
He is a retired marine (some special unit he won't talk about)...retired due to arm disability from a GSW to the shoulder that destroyed nerves to the arm....self applied a tourniquet, held direct pressure on the wound, covered in a cloth.
Says he did it to survive, that it hurt more than he expected but that didn't stop him, he knew he had to get free so his wife wouldn't find him dead...not the way he wanted to "go out".
Brave?, Crazy? Ballsy? Insane? or just someone taught the survival instinct that is so honed that he used his skills, physically and mentally to survive.

Martin 02-16-2005 06:21

I take it that the death threat by the car was because of the medication issues, please correct me if that is wrong.

Did he apply the tourniquet after the severing of the hand and what/how did he use to do it?

ccrn 02-16-2005 11:28

I'm wondering what medical condition he has that would be so urgent as to amuptate his own hand and would be life threatening within a few hours?

Was he bleeding into the hand?

Severe brittle diabetes?

Severe liver failure requiring lactulose rx?


PS
What kind of knife?







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Bill Harsey 02-16-2005 11:33

We can talk about this being the right thing or not to have done but he's already done it.

Is/was the hand re-attachable?

Roguish Lawyer 02-16-2005 12:50

Wow. :munchin

swatsurgeon 02-16-2005 16:26

the hand was infact re-plantable but the patient did not want to go through the procedure despite the fact we offered it.....
the urgency of meds, we now find out were depression/PTSD related.
he felt the immediate threat of being trapped and it did a number on his head.
He's doing well so far.

ccrn 02-16-2005 17:03

I second that "wow"

hurly 02-16-2005 17:45

Truly amazing what the mind can conjure!

casey 02-16-2005 18:50

His will to live overwhelmed his ability to accept death. Good job.

NousDefionsDoc 02-16-2005 19:21

Woodpecker Lips

swatsurgeon 02-16-2005 23:54

ahhhhhhh...new news.
NDD may have nailed it.........we have a small psych issue now. Yes he cut it off but the story is changing and this may have been 'staged/planned'....damn, ruins a good story...at least I have good pics!!

casey 02-17-2005 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Harsey
We can talk about this being the right thing or not to have done but he's already done it.

Is/was the hand re-attachable?


Ok, now I can post this. Is it just me or does anyone else see the Mr. Harsey(brilliant/innocent) subtle Addams Family reference here? I've been holding this back for days ......

ccrn 02-17-2005 08:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by casey
Is it just me or does anyone else see the Mr. Harsey(brilliant/innocent) subtle Addams Family reference here? I've been holding this back for days ......


I'm picking myself up off the floor for the second time in two days.


Quote:

Originally Posted by swatsurgeon
...NDD may have nailed it...


I thought this was a reference to being tough, not crazy.


People might not be happy with my position but I'm not giving this pt props for this-

NousDefionsDoc 02-17-2005 11:25

It was a reference to being tough. He also quite obviously needs psych help.


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