Wow, what a huge mistake....... MARSOC going to Glocks
 

Really bad idea..... because they don't have the external safety everyone changes their shooting style where they place their trigger finger above and along side of the slide. By comparison if your finger was on the trigger with thumb on the safety it only takes a fraction of a second to fire, where as the glock shooter has to move their entire finger into the trigger area, place their finger back onto the trigger and begin their trigger pull. Or employ the famous and stupid Glock New York Trigger........

That's a lot to give up for the Ford Taurus of pistols...... I see many AD's in their future.........







Marine Corps first: Glock 19 approved for special operations personnel
By Douglas Ernst - The Washington Times - Tuesday, February 17, 2015

The Marine Corps recently authorized certain personnel to carry the 9mm semi-automatic Glock 19 pistol — a first for the military branch.

For now, only personnel assigned to the Corps’ Special Operations Command (MARSOC) will be authorized to carry the weapon, which has been popular worldwide with military forces and law enforcement agencies, Marine Corps Times reported Tuesday.

The Glock 19 has a reputation of being reliable in environments that cause other pistols to malfunction. Until now, Marine operators had used the 9mm Beretta M9 or M9A1 pistols, “but more often the service’s .45-caliber M45A1 Close Quarter Battle Pistol which is based on the iconic M1911 platform,” the Times reported.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...#ixzz3S2fA3uau

Glock are easier to burn on exfil.. :munchin

UUUUUhhhhh! You said that out loud, JJ! :D

Pat

and that's going to leave a mark...

unless you talk to a MARSOC ;)

this is so true :D
When I took my GLock armorer class with the Cumberland county sheriff folks, there was someone in the class who told a story of how he got "creative" with his glock and the oven. Something to do with proper application of Miltec. Needless to say he forgot about it and his wife preheated the oven for baking purposes. 30min later and noone was happy in the house...His wife, more than him!

What??

Glock Announces Full Size 1911

What the hell is that? Haha, that's a disgrace to an original 1911. What the hell is the point of that, they need to stay within their market of polymer handguns.:rolleyes:

Well played, LOL... I thought Glock was supposed to come out with a carbine before the 1911....

Here's a FOX article/bash on the hideous 1911.
If their training was so bad that they can't handle the solid gold CQBP, God help them with the Glocks. Maybe it's the "young operators" brought up on gangsta style nines. :rolleyes:

Of course I could opine on whether or not MARSOC's existence is even necessary anyway...but I won't.
:munchin
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/19...tcmp=obnetwork

1911's are as bad as glocks. The only reason 1911's are still around is that a certain Ranger unit uses them (delta force) and old men are still teaching them as the best handgun on the planet.

Yeah, read that again. If delta was not using them they would have gone the way of the dodo.

They quit using them some time ago. Had issues with them in the dust/sand.

I'm sorry, I like my Glocks. Between shot placement and situational awareness, I've never had a problem (including several police action shootings) ....

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Going to respectfully disagree with you there. Trying to shave time by putting your finger on the trigger and manipulating an external safety as you break the shot sounds like a recipe for disaster. I'm not the fastest, but I'm surely not slowed down by getting to a Glock trigger- the draw/transitioning from target to target provides ample time for getting your finger on the trigger and prep. Also-for the M9 they were left on fire with the hammer down during my time in Group (similar to the updated 92G which changed the safety to a de-cocker only), so the movement outside of the holster was the same as with a Glock, except for the M9's ridiculous 13# pull vs. the Glock 3.5-5.5#.

I will say it's weird that units go with a compact pistol for full kit use. Why not a 17 or 22?

I have but one thing to say to that...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rGnMKszxg

It actually has its own name "Glock Leg". I'm not saying that this guy is MARSOC or that this will happen everyday, but the potential is always there. I have seen weird stuff on the range. I've seen guys dropped off of teams during SFAUC, for silly things that didn't result in injury. What will happen when one of the MARSOC guys shoots himself is that they will train like the Israelis and not carry a round in the chamber. Then they will go back to 1911s

I'm not a fan of Glocks (mostly the hand grip) but I have no problem with people that use them. I personally like an extra bit of safety and nothing wrong with a few extra pounds on the trigger for a back up weapon with a trigger safety. My XDm has a back strap safety and a trigger safety, my wife's FNS has a trigger safety and a thumb safety (that works the correct way, the 1911 way, not the 92F way). Both are striker fire guns and with added safeties comes added options (carrying hot vs safe, on the range vs in my wife's purse, during CQB vs on the street for self defense)

With the millions of Glocks (and similar striker fired handguns) issued around the world, the issue always come back to training and awareness. Kepp your damned finger out of the trigger guard. If the user pays the most basic attention to firearm safety, they do not shoot themselves in the leg.

I don't own any Glocks any more but do not hate them. And, don't certain Army units use them?