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kgoerz 08-20-2011 10:16

How not to do it
 
Got this from another forum. But it needs to be shared. It amazes how many people feel they need have their name out there. Anyone know these tools. Watch for the guy that flags the entire line while using his weapon as a club.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX4gz2r6IM8

dr. mabuse 08-20-2011 10:47

WTF? A wet dream for Airsofters. "Rifle Fighting". Yeah. Right. Sexy.

Complex and fine motor skill movements for fighting in an open-ended dynamic event with poor muzzle discipline?

Hey, stay close to the target performing a bee mating dance so they can grab your rifle. Huh? For a split second thought the first aid was real because the instructor had executed a ND into someone's thigh.

They should have saved their money and trained with Paul Howe, et al.

Or in their case, double-up on the Viagra. P.T. Barnum was right. Good Lord! :munchin

On their website it says " By Operators for Operators". I rest my case.:p

rdret1 08-20-2011 11:16

WTH was that overhand grip crap? Or where the dude basically GAVE his rifle to the target (opponent)? Everytime they reloaded, they had to look to see where their mags were. I thought the guy in the light colored shirt was going to hit himself in the face with his handgun everytime he drew it back into him. These guys make the ballerinas from American Defense Enterprises look truly professional. :rolleyes:

Kyobanim 08-20-2011 11:18

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On their website it says " By Operators for Operators". I rest my case
Probably AT&T

PRB 08-20-2011 11:30

they need more diversity!

rdret1 08-20-2011 11:50

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbA_E...eature=related

Here is another good one by these guys. I would hate to get caught in the door with one.

rdret1 08-20-2011 11:57

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...=TLltkoOgec8qA

What is with that overhand grip? It drives me nuts!

x SF med 08-20-2011 12:03

WTF is it wit hthese guys rolling the entire weapon over everytime there is a stall? NO IAD?... isn't that the clue if you have a good round count and you're not out? and a drop and fill may be the best course anyway....

Oh, well, no forward assist on most of these guns anyway....

Dusty 08-20-2011 12:15

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Originally Posted by kgoerz (Post 409862)
Got this from another forum. But it needs to be shared. It amazes how many people feel they need have their name out there. Anyone know these tools. Watch for the guy that flags the entire line while using his weapon as a club.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX4gz2r6IM8

It's got to where I get surprised any time I don't see shit like this.

That's why the Brits invented the word "Wanker".

jw74 08-20-2011 13:07

I don't understand the desire to spend money on this kind of "training" or on thigh rigs/tactical vests/ cool guy hats etc if you are non military or non leo. for the price of their gear (that they will never use for its intended purpose) I can buy another pistol/rifle/or ammo, or training by vetted instructors in skills relevent to a civillian's needs.
As for sending them to someone like Paul Howe, I have too much respect for him to send people like this to csat..
Back when I was a martial arts instructor, every other month there would be some idiot in black belt magazine demonstrating his gun "kata". It looks like the goofballs and posers have migrated from black belt magazine to the us cavalry catalog.

frostfire 08-20-2011 13:10

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Originally Posted by x SF med (Post 409889)
WTF is it wit hthese guys rolling the entire weapon over everytime there is a stall? NO IAD?... isn't that the clue if you have a good round count and you're not out? and a drop and fill may be the best course anyway....

Oh, well, no forward assist on most of these guns anyway....

I think that's right out of Costa Magpul Dynamics tape. Inspecting chamber to see bolt lock vs. double feed vs. bla bla. I like VTAc approach better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TqLnBd1udM
...still, no worries of these malfunction drill when you're running an AK :D
Worst ever malfunction was during a HP match. During seated rapid fore, while holding the ring, that thick shooting glove somehow covered the ejection port in such angle that a spent case was flung back in and lodged around the gas tube. The match director had to pry it out with a pocket knife. Learned my lesson well and since then has always watched for port obstruction at various shooting positions

IIRC, the overhand grip is popularized after the 3 gun crowd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29GGLt1ZT2U

Dusty 08-20-2011 13:11

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Originally Posted by jw74 (Post 409900)
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Back when I was a martial arts instructor, every other month there would be some idiot in black belt magazine demonstrating his gun "kata". It looks like the goofballs and posers have migrated from black belt magazine to the us cavalry catalog.

How 'bout anybody who reads or has ever suscribed to read "Black Belt" magazine was a goofball?

I love you "Martial Arts Instructors".


PM me for a phone number. I need a lesson.

jw74 08-20-2011 13:18

I don't pretend to be something I wasn't. I taught self defense to people in as pragmatic a method as I was able. It was something I enjoyed, and enjoyed teaching to others. I taught men women and children to be more confident and to not present themselves as victims. How was that career some how not worth while?

Dusty 08-20-2011 13:22

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Originally Posted by jw74 (Post 409904)
I don't pretend to be something I wasn't. I taught self defense to people in as pragmatic a method as I was able. It was something I enjoyed, and enjoyed teaching to others. I taught men women and children to be more confident and to not present themselves as victims. How was that career some how not worth while?

Who said it was "some how not worth while"?

I got beat up by a harsh chick named Myong Mayes for years.

That was what was not worth while. :D

I don't disparage Tae Kwon Do. I just have a good nose for bullshit artists.

jw74 08-20-2011 13:32

My only point with my original post was that I saw the same type of instruction in the martial arts world. People pretending to be teaching mystical skills and presenting themselves as superhuman masters. Much like the growth in shooting schools run by people pretending to be ex-commandos.
I agree that black belt magazine was ridiculous and no, I did not subscribe, but I've read plenty of them.
I taught kempo, not TKD. It was a rewarding job that I held full time for 17 years before I moved on.
PS.com is your house. I offer no disrespect but I'm no bullshit artist.
My apologies for taking the thread off topic.


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