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Another Jihad Attack Tied to Ohio Mosque

Where the f*** was local law enforcement when this mf'er was terrorizing American college girls? As the article states, he has a history of yelling "F*** you American Slut!" at Ohio State female students. Note that after he stabbed this INNOCENT young American girl, the f***ing coward ran into a mosque.

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Jihad attack at Ohio State? Young woman stabbed by Muslim who fled to a mosque

This story assures us that Wael Kalash is mentally ill, but that would be more convincing if it weren't the constant refrain every time a Muslim engages in random violence in the U.S. Remember Omeed Popal? Ismail Yassin Mohamed? Naveed Haq? All Muslims, all violent against unbelievers, and all insane. And maybe they really were. Maybe Wael Kalash is also -- but his characteristically Muslim beard, his yelling "F*** YOU AMERICAN SL*T" at college girls, and his fleeing to a nearby mosque all suggest that perhaps his rage, and his violence, were particularly Islamic in character.

"Wrong place, wrong time for OSU stabbing victim," by Collin Binkley for The Lantern of Ohio State University, June 4 (thanks to Pamela):

A female Ohio State student was trying to catch a bus to class Tuesday afternoon when she became the victim of a random stabbing.

Police say the 20-year-old student was walking down Stinchcomb Drive near Buckeye Village at 12:55 p.m. when she was stabbed by 34-year-old Wael W. Kalash. Witnesses said Kalash had been walking up and down the street exhibiting "bizarre" behavior before the stabbing occurred.

"There's no connection between the victim and him other than she was at the wrong place at the wrong time, it was a completely random act," said Det. Jay Fulton of the Columbus Division of Police homicide unit.

Witnesses said that Kalash, a resident of Stinchcomb Drive, walked up to the student and stabbed her once in the abdomen with a knife. The student described the weapon as a kitchen-type knife bigger than a steak knife but smaller than a bread knife.

While an ambulance took the student to Riverside Hospital to undergo surgery, officers saturated the area looking for the assailant. They soon found Kalash inside a nearby mosque at 535 Riverview Dr., where witnesses positively identified him as the assaulter. Kalash was arrested for felonious assault and is being held at Franklin County Jail on $750,000 bond.

Neighbors of Kalash said he has a history of "strange behavior," and Fulton said he may be mentally ill.

"He didn't make a lot of sense when we tried to talk to him," Fulton said. "He exhibited a lot of signs of some mental instability or some mental issues."...

However, Pamela points out that a comment at The Lantern site gives a very different impression of this man's "mental illness":

Actually I am a resident that lives in University Village next to his building that he lived in. He was always at the UV bus stop and riding the UV bus. Whenever I would drive by him while he was sitting out on the bus stop he would stand in front of my car making me slow down and stop and yell "F*** YOU AMERICAN SL*T". I am not being "anti-foreigner", but I am telling the truth. I spoke with several other girls and they said the same type of thing happened to them. Actually I do not think this is "WRONG PLACE AT WRONG TIME" but rather a case of "eventually going to happen". The night of the stabbing I called into the Lantern to tell them of this incident clearly stating it occured [sic] at the University Village apartments, and that I myself had been verbally assulted [sic] several times by the man, Great work Lantern.

Is it really remotely "anti-foreigner" to point out that a man guilty of stabbing a young woman he didn't know used to yell "F*** YOU AMERICAN SL*T" at other college girls?

UPDATE: Patrick Poole tells me that the mosque to which Kalash fled was the same one that has been connected to several jihad attacks, and which may also be linked to the recent Arkansas jihad murder. It has also hosted jihadist speakers.

Posted by Robert at June 5, 2009 9:05 AM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/026463.php

Wrong place, wrong time for OSU stabbing victim

http://media.www.thelantern.com/medi...-3746031.shtml

Doesn't sound like a jihadi to me - and no society or religion has ever had a monopoly on crazies. :eek:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

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OSU Stabbing Victim Discusses Attack

An Ohio State University student who was stabbed earlier this week outside her north side apartment said Thursday that she was surprised her alleged attacker was released from a mental health facility.

Rachel Decker spoke with 10TV's Maureen Kocot from her hospital bed.

Decker said that she was hurrying out the back door of her Stinchcomb Drive apartment to catch a bus that would take her to class when a man wearing a red sweatshirt came charging at her.

"He was just sprinting straight at me and he was screaming," Decker said.

The Ohio State junior said that she did not notice a knife in the man's hand until he pulled it out of her stomach.

"It kind of went in and came out," Decker said. "That's when I saw a blade and he kept running. He just kept sprinting."

Decker and a witness identified Wael Wajih Kalash, 34, as her attacker. He was charged with felonious assault.

Court records showed that police arrested Kalash in 2002 for assault on a police officer. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity and received treatment at the Twin Valley Behavioral Healthcare facility, Kocot reported.

In 2007, doctors told the courts that Kalash no longer required treatment and was released.

Investigators said that Kalash was more interested in discussing politics than the stabbing when they interrogated him.

"All he wanted to talk about (was) how the U.S. government is poisoning him since his arrival here in the United States in the mid-1990s," said Columbus police Detective Pat Dorn.

Decker said that she believes Kalash's early release was a mistake.

"Even when he's locked up now, I still think, 'Who else could he have hurt in this time? If they hadn't gotten him, who else would he have hurt?'" Decker said.

In late 2006, doctors told the courts that Kalash was taking his medication and posed no behavior problems. Since his release, he has stayed out of trouble with the law, Kocot reported.

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/loc...s&cat=&sid=102

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 268370)

Doesn't sound like a jihadi to me - and no society or religion has ever had a monopoly on crazies. :eek:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

He may indeed be crazy, but based on the limited information available about Wael Wajih Kalash, it appears he was motivated/instigated by Jihadist ideology. Of course, the fact he sought refuge in a mosque could be happenstance. I doubt it.

Your statement that no '..religion has ever had a monopoly on crazies' sounds an awful lot like moral equivalence.

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Originally Posted by SF-TX (Post 268430)

He looks like your basic NUT..... Just because he was in the Mosque and that he is from the middle east does not make him a Jihadist... His history sounds like a Crazy nut..... And like Richard said no one religion or society has a monopoly on Crazy people.......... If you apply this rule then go look at the Prisons and take up the stats and tell me who is the majority and you can then apply your rule to that set of stats......

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 268370)

Doesn't sound like a jihadi to me - and no society or religion has ever had a monopoly on crazies. :eek:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

She could have saved society a lot of money and agony if she had a CCW, and used it appropriately.

TR

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He may indeed be crazy, but based on the limited information available about Wael Wajih Kalash, it appears he was motivated/instigated by Jihadist ideology. Of course, the fact he sought refuge in a mosque could be happenstance. I doubt it.

He was? :confused:

Court records showed that police arrested Kalash in 2002 for assault on a police officer. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity and received treatment at the Twin Valley Behavioral Healthcare facility.
In 2007, doctors told the courts that Kalash no longer required treatment and was released.
"All he wanted to talk about (was) how the U.S. government is poisoning him since his arrival here in the United States in the mid-1990s."
In late 2006, doctors told the courts that Kalash was taking his medication and posed no behavior problems.

And if his prior behavior was of such concern to the students, why doesn't it look as if they never seemed to be concerned enough to report it?

Since his release, he has stayed out of trouble with the law.

And the fact that his fleeing to a mosque assuredly makes him a jihadii - well, because we all know that crazies/criminals/etc - of whatever belief - just don't ever seek refuge in places such as churches/temples/mosques/etc when being pursued after having committed a crime - unless they're a jihadi, of course.

The 'dots' of information we've been given on this thing don't connect in a way that allows me to create the same connect-the-dot picture you seem so adamant in painting here. Why? :confused:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 268439)

She could have saved society a lot of money and agony if she had a CCW, and used it appropriately.

TR

Having been born and raised in that area, the city of Columbus was never very enthusiastic about people defending themselves with concealed weapons.

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 268441)

He was?
And if his prior behavior was of such concern to the students, why doesn't it look as if they never seemed to be concerned enough to report it?

Since his release, he has stayed out of trouble with the law.

And the fact that his fleeing to a mosque assuredly makes him a jihadii - well, because we all know that crazies/criminals/etc - of whatever belief - just don't ever seek refuge in places such as churches/temples/mosques/etc when being pursued after having committed a crime - unless they're a jihadi, of course.

The 'dots' of information we've been given on this thing don't connect in a way that allows me to create the same connect-the-dot picture you seem so adamant in painting here. Why?

Richard's $.02

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And if his prior behavior was of such concern to the students, why doesn't it look as if they never seemed to be concerned enough to report it?

They may have reported him, but if not, I don't know why students did not report his behavior. Perhaps it is because they didn't want to be labeled an 'islamophobe.'

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And the fact that his fleeing to a mosque assuredly makes him a jihadii - well, because we all know that crazies/criminals/etc - of whatever belief - just don't ever seek refuge in places such as churches/temples/mosques/etc when being pursued after having committed a crime - unless they're a jihadi, of course.

And we all know that jihadis would NEVER use a 'crazy', mentally retarded kid, woman, child, or coerced individual to conduct an attack on infidels. I won't argue that, based on reported information, he looks a bit off center. Is it all that unreasonable to believe that this trait was recognized by his 'handler' (if in fact there is one) and he was manipulated or instigated into attacking a 'F***ing American Slut?' Or, he could have acted alone based on inciteful sermons received in the mosque (I have seen no reporting on whether or not he regularly attended the mosque where he sought refuge).

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The 'dots' of information we've been given on this thing don't connect in a way that allows me to create the same connect-the-dot picture you seem so adamant in painting here. Why? :confused:

I admit, I may have prematurely attributed Jihadi ideology as the motivator for the attack. On the other hand, you seem just as quick to discount the possibility. Why?:confused:

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Originally Posted by SF-TX (Post 268491)

I admit, I may have prematurely attributed Jihadi ideology as the motivator for the attack. On the other hand, you seem just as quick to discount the possibility. Why?:confused:

Just something I was taught a long time ago in SF. LOOK, LISTEN, LEARN, Do not make snap judgment's and act only when you have enough info to make informed decisions.

I would think Richard is making his statements like I am due to his age, experience and the lack of information to convict this person as of now as a Jihad Nut.

We as QP should not just jump as to say he is a Jihad Nut until enough good info (Intel) is there to support the decision. Too many people want to jump to conclusions and this does not do anyone any good. We are too smart to be like the MSM and Politicians and a lot of Un-educated civ's out there.

Just my 2 cents and that will not even buy me a cup of coffee........

I am sure Richard has a good viewpoint also......:munchin

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I admit, I may have prematurely attributed Jihadi ideology as the motivator for the attack. On the other hand, you seem just as quick to discount the possibility. Why?

I'll start here:

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Another Jihad Attack Tied to Ohio Mosque

vs Another Jihad Attack Tied to Ohio Mosque?

What's posted as the header for this thread is written as a statement of fact - one that isn't supported by the information posted within the thread itself - vs a questioning of the facts as presented (which is what Spencer did).

Actually - given the facts as officially recorded and reported - without the e-rumors and Geraldo style suppositions posted on the WWW - I read about something that has feathers, waddles, quacks, and unhesitatingly craps in its own backyard - a duck. As for my adamant arguments against this nut being a jihadi - and he may be - but (1) the facts we've been given don't yet support such a definite conclusion and (2) based on experience, this one just doesn't have the sound (feel) of that being the case.

And then there's this wonderfully misleading introductory paragraph designed to bait the reader into questioning any facts which may follow:

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This story assures us that Wael Kalash is mentally ill, but that would be more convincing if it weren't the constant refrain every time a Muslim engages in random violence in the U.S. Remember Omeed Popal? Ismail Yassin Mohamed? Naveed Haq? All Muslims, all violent against unbelievers, and all insane. And maybe they really were. Maybe Wael Kalash is also -- but his characteristically Muslim beard, his yelling "F*** YOU AMERICAN SL*T" at college girls, and his fleeing to a nearby mosque all suggest that perhaps his rage, and his violence, were particularly Islamic in character.

Geraldo Rivera, Jerry Springer, the Area 51 and 9-11 conspiracy theorists, and the rest would be justifiably proud to have been able to claim the above paragraph as one of their typically over-hyped and purposefully misleading pieces of eyebrow raising supposition.

As for this nut (fact) who has been previously hospitalized and treated for mental disorders (fact) and stabbed (fact) the female student (fact) - we'll just have to wait and see whether he was truly a jihadi (as Spencer supposes and would like us to consider) or not (as the current facts support).

And so it goes... ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 268439)

She could have saved society a lot of money and agony if she had a CCW, and used it appropriately.

TR

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 268441)

He was? :confused:

Court records showed that police arrested Kalash in 2002 for assault on a police officer. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity and received treatment at the Twin Valley Behavioral Healthcare facility.
In 2007, doctors told the courts that Kalash no longer required treatment and was released.
"All he wanted to talk about (was) how the U.S. government is poisoning him since his arrival here in the United States in the mid-1990s."
In late 2006, doctors told the courts that Kalash was taking his medication and posed no behavior problems.

I don't know, but what I've read so far leads to to think about the reasoning Richard is using here,makes sense to me when you stand back and think about it.........

GB TFS :munchin

He's a nut but a fundy non the less...what was he yelling at college girls..
."F&%K you American Slut"
They are sluts because they travel without male relatives, do not dress according to sharia etc.etc.
Is he a Jihadi...in his own mind I suspect he is...as far as his jihad is attacking nonmuslims due to their disrespect for his mulsim outlook.