A Different Idea About PT (For Some...)
 

Q's for the BTDTs
 

In regards to what the author wrote, what do the BTDTs feel are credible suggestions?

I ask the question from a PL/CO/Training NCO's position, trying to plan worthwhile PT or training for the soldiers in a platoon/company.

In your experience, are some of the 'jackrabbits' (=>270 APFT) really slugs when humping the full battle rattle, or has the APFT been an effective indicator of a soldier's physical fitness?

Yes.

I do not feel that the APFT is an accurate measure of a soldier's ability to function under combat conditions with a combat load. I have seen it time and time again.

SF is famous for long marches at a very fast pace with heavy loads. And for the most part these are not young men by military standards. They are, however, very tough men. I have officially been to war once and been shot at numerous times. I have never done a push up or situp in response, nor have I ever had to run two miles to get to cover. I have, however, been forced to carry everything I own many kilometers to get to the event.

History does not lie. In WWII, just like today, the soldiers KNEW they were going into combat. They could have trained anyway they wanted to, yet those chose to do as described by Colonel Darby. Wonder why?

I have known poster children that could run like striped-assed Gazelles, yet the green tick and the ballistic vest is the great equalizer. I have known men that could barely break an 8 minute mile, yet they could put your house on their backs and walk to China without a break. Of course I have also known men that could run like the wind and ruck like Atlas.

Had a Team Sergeant once. Silver Star in Vietnam. Refused to run for PT. I asked him why.

"Ever been in combat?"

"No Team Sergeant."

"You don't run much in PF Flyers and catch me hose me shorts. Man runs in combat other than to attack or get to cover is one of two things. If he runs towards it he is a fool, if he runs away from it he is a coward. Roger?"

"Roger Team Sergeant."

"Good, now go get your ruck, we're going to walk for a couple of days."

Of course he could have been wrong...

Hey NDD:

Congrats on your 3,000th, errrr, 1,000th post! :D It was a good one.

What the hell are you talking about?

Why are people always asking me that question? LOL

Isn't the God Gun sweet?

TR

Oh, now I get it . . . :rolleyes:

I'm a little slow.

The link posted leads to a page thats no longer there.

Is there another site I can view this information on?

Why sure

Another source for information

:D

The first link works for me

Me too.

Great link NDD.

!!!!!LOL!!!!! That's my favorite one.

Me three.

The article reminds me of Jerry, who was not a pretty soldier, nor a 300 APFT guy, but he could shoot, hump his monster 18E ruck all day and half the night, and make commo every time. What more could you want from an 18E and a teammate?

Wish the Army understood what was important sometimes.

TR

Precisely one of the guys I was thinking about.

I thought he was very pretty - every time he made comms for the exfil bird most especially.:D