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Max_Tab 02-13-2004 13:40

Question
 
Who put the saying "From the rest, comes the best", and what the h#$% is it suppose to mean?

Team Sergeant 02-13-2004 13:42

You have a 3rd Gp coin?

Max_Tab 02-13-2004 13:54

LMAO no actually I don't. I think I have a 3rd Group CJSOTF coin from A-stan somewhere. And I do have a btn hat.

Team Sergeant 02-13-2004 15:47

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Originally posted by Max_Tab
LMAO no actually I don't. I
Now how do you think I knew that......

Find someone that does have a Third Group coin and post here what it says.......

Team Sergeant

Roguish Lawyer 02-13-2004 15:52

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Hopefully this isn't going to get me an offer I can't refuse . . .

Max_Tab 02-13-2004 15:52

I don't suppose "We do bad things to bad people" would count. Btn motto, (yeah I know it's gay)

Or how about "Africa? Where the hell is that?"

Roguish Lawyer 02-13-2004 15:54

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and the back . . .

Team Sergeant 02-13-2004 15:55

Actually I saw one of those T-shirts when they first came out and thought it was a great motto.

But the group motto is the one above..... Thanks RL

Max_Tab 02-13-2004 15:56

Alright I stand corrected. But hey at least there are now 2 whole threads in this section. :D

NousDefionsDoc 02-13-2004 16:31

Are you sharp shooting us there Commo Man? You think we don't have research assistants and check out stuff?

Surgicalcric 02-13-2004 16:39

Research Assistant huh?

Almost as good as Crip. :D

Roguish Lawyer 02-13-2004 16:43

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Originally posted by Surgicalcric
Research Assistant huh?

Almost as good as Crip. :D

If you're interpreting that as a dig on me, I didn't take it that way. I do research for a living.

Surgicalcric 02-13-2004 16:46

Quite to the contrary RL. I seem to be doing some research here lately myself.

NousDefionsDoc 02-13-2004 17:11

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
If you're interpreting that as a dig on me, I didn't take it that way. I do research for a living.
LOL, inside joke. Calm down.

Max_Tab 02-13-2004 17:37

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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Are you sharp shooting us there Commo Man? You think we don't have research assistants and check out stuff?
I would never do that, I'll go back to memorizing my Tri graph.

DoctorDoom 03-03-2004 14:39

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NousDefionsDoc 03-03-2004 14:52

Sure, worst that can happen is we call you a girl with a man's gu...Oh wait.

DoctorDoom 03-03-2004 15:15

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colmurph 03-03-2004 16:41

I think Dr.Doom has got it right. That's how it was explained to me when I joined the group in 1966.

The Reaper 03-03-2004 18:10

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Originally posted by DoctorDoom
LOL... well with that encouragement here goes:

Based on my very limited research, 3rd Group was established with personnel from the 1st, 5th, 7th, and Training Groups of 1st Special Forces. The motto would seem to reflect that lineage.

Is that an accurate appreciation of the meaning behind the motto?

You forgot 10th Group, but that is understandable, we do it too.

TR

Team Sergeant 03-03-2004 20:15

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Originally posted by colmurph
I think Dr.Doom has got it right. That's how it was explained to me when I joined the group in 1966.
That would be correct as I understand it Col.

TS

DoctorDoom 03-04-2004 00:56

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Guy 03-04-2004 08:01

Pretty close.
 
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Originally posted by DoctorDoom
LOL... well with that encouragement here goes:

Based on my very limited research, 3rd Group was established with personnel from the 1st, 5th, 7th, and Training Groups of 1st Special Forces. The motto would seem to reflect that lineage.

Is that an accurate appreciation of the meaning behind the motto?

Way back in the days that may have been true however, when 3rd Group was re-established it was stood up by guys from 3rd Bn 5thSFG(A) and became 1st Bn 3rd SFG(A)...there was only one battalion for a while.

longrange1947 03-04-2004 19:12

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Originally posted by The Reaper
You forgot 10th Group, but that is understandable, we do it too.

TR

Actually TR, 10th did not contribute to 3rd as they were in Germany. The colors of the 3rd Group flash indicate the groups involved in the establishment of the Group. The original flash showed a blending of htese groups into one, but alas, some PC idiot thought it resembled a nazi swastika and had it removed.

Old memories, may be off abit but ColMurph can confirm or deny.

The Reaper 03-04-2004 19:19

I'll take your word for it, LR.

Would have thought that they would have gotten someone from 10th as part of their diversity program. :D

TR

BMT (RIP) 03-04-2004 19:25

Questions
 
You have to remember when the 3d Gp. was activated we didn't have that COO/PC shit in the Army. The young ladies were still called WAC's!!

BMT
Sr.FOG

longrange1947 03-04-2004 20:16

WACs' Barracks
 
And a target rich environment it was too! :D

ATeamFOG 03-15-2004 15:45

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"From the rest, comes the best"

3rd Special Forces Group (Airborne) 1st Special Forces

5 December 1963 Activated Fort Bragg, NC

18 February 1964 Personnel Transferred from the 1st, 7th, 5th and Training Groups (Airborne) to make up the 3rd SF Group, giving the Group the Colors for its Flash

Yellow from the 1st Special Forces Group (Airborne)

Red from the 7th Special Forces Group (Airborne)

Black from the 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne)

White from Special Forces Training Group Group (Airborne)

The 10th had been made up and moved to Germany from the 77th SF, The remaining made up the 7th.

DoctorDoom 03-15-2004 16:11

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Smokin Joe 03-15-2004 16:52

I have no need to know...just curious
 
Where do the colors of the other Flashes come from? I.E. why is 1st yellow, 7th red,...

longrange1947 03-15-2004 17:02

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The 10th had been made up and moved to Germany from the 77th SF, The remaining made up the 7th.
Actually the 10th went to Germany and left the 77th behind, which was made up of guys from the 10th.

The 77th Company became the 7th Group.

In those days the Company (C Team) is what the Bn is now. The B Team was just a part of the Company.

At least that is my recollections. :D

colmurph 03-31-2004 12:31

Some liberal PC bastard decided that the colors of the border extending into the next color made the flash "Reminiscent" of the Hakenkreuz and so the border was changed on the new flash. Somebody must have gone home on leave and told his sister who was a member of PETA, that he ate a bunny rabbit on Cherokee Trail. Either that, or he was a 91B4S and told her about "Dog Lab".LOL

Capt_G 05-14-2004 21:58

I was a SOT-A guy in 2d Bn from 90-96. When I first got to Bragg in the fall of 90 some of the guys bought their 3d Gp flashes on Yadkin road and all that was available at the time off post were the old flashes. Some of those shops must have had a stash from when 3d Gp deactivated. At any rate, you should have heard the bitching and monaing over those flashes by the CSM. The words swastika and nazi were thrown around alot.

longrange1947 05-16-2004 12:45

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Originally posted by Capt_G
I was a SOT-A guy in 2d Bn from 90-96. When I first got to Bragg in the fall of 90 some of the guys bought their 3d Gp flashes on Yadkin road and all that was available at the time off post were the old flashes. Some of those shops must have had a stash from when 3d Gp deactivated. At any rate, you should have heard the bitching and monaing over those flashes by the CSM. The words swastika and nazi were thrown around alot.
Once again proving that the ignorance of one's history(the blending of the four Groups into one Group) can cause a loss of heritage(the loss of the blended flash).

It is a shame that SGMs can be that dam dumb.

Capt_G 05-16-2004 16:42

What I think is REALLY interesting is that I have seen a Sioux Indian symbol that is round and uses the same colors and has the border like the old 3d Group flash. Makes me wonder if it wasn't an inspiration for the flash.
Also, not to defend the politically correct mindset of the time, but just as we were standing up 3d Group there was a scandal involving the "theft" of unit weapons from 7th Group and implicated were a few guys with ties with white supremacy groups.

The Reaper 05-16-2004 17:14

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Originally posted by Capt_G
Also, not to defend the politically correct mindset of the time, but just as we were standing up 3d Group there was a scandal involving the "theft" of unit weapons from 7th Group and implicated were a few guys with ties with white supremacy groups.
Capt_G:

Are you SF qualified?

TR

Capt_G 05-16-2004 21:43

TR,
That is a BIG Negative. I was on SOT-A 306 from 90-96 before making the great leap over to the Air Force.
Capt G

Capt_G 05-22-2004 11:49

Amazing how many ex-3d Group folks end up at SOCPAC. When I got here there were quite a few and yesterday I showed up at Lightning DZ and the 87th QM Dets new Warrant used to work at the 3d Group Rigger shed.

NousDefions794 03-23-2005 10:20

When I got to 3rd in 91 there was NO money period. We practically had to have bake sales just to deploy. Seemed like every staff officer out there wanted to save Uncle Sam's money. Our motto was "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap". Didn't go over well with Bn or Grp. Oh how the times have changed.

Capt_G 03-23-2005 10:48

Yeah, I can remember that. I lost money every time we went anywhere.


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