Turkey's Military Trying To Overthrow Government in Coup
 

Details are sketchy ... but it bares watching.

:munchin

From another source ...

... and from FOX news ...

:munchin

May you live in interesting times.

No big deal. It isn't like this is a NATO country.

About time.

*** UPDATE ***

Military says it has full control of country ... that the coup was successful.

found here ---> http://www.youngcons.com/reports-ind...nment-in-coup/

Reichskanzler Merkel must be beside herself.

Edit: By the way, where's Billy... ?

They most definitely do not have control of the streets at the moment.

***UPDATE***

Turkish President Is Reportedly Seeking Asylum In Germany

Tweets found here ---> http://www.youngcons.com/turkish-pre...um-in-germany/

CNN-Turkey is reporting that a Turkish F-16 has shot down a Turkish helicopter.

Turkish military is saying they are fulfilling their constitutional obligation to keep Islam out of the government.

Americans in Turkey, your embassy is there for you.

Emergency Message for U.S. Citizens: Turkish Uprising

July 15, 2016

U.S. Embassy Ankara informs U.S. citizens that shots fired and explosions have been heard in Ankara and both bridges in Istanbul, the Bosphorous and Fatih Sultan Mehmet, are now closed. Martial law and a curfew have been imposed in Turkey. All flights at Ataturk Istanbul Airport have been suspended.

We urge U.S. citizens to contact family and friends to let them know you are safe. We have seen reports that social media is blocked, but you can contact friends and family by email, telephone, or SMS. We encourage U.S. citizens to shelter in place and do not go the U.S. Embassy or Consulates at this time. Monitor local press for updates, avoid areas of conflict, and exercise caution if you are in the vicinity of any military or security forces.

John Bolton just mentioned this on Fox:

Pat

Nice of the coup plotters to wait until Friday market closures.

Gives them 2 days to consolidate before Monday.

If still chaos then markets are going to hurt.

Surprised the Turkish PM is on TV.

Erdogan on FaceTime.

President Obama vocally supporting government.


And no Chief of Turkish Defense Force or service chiefs on TV.

Middle management coup?

Since Erdogan emasculated Turkish military reboot option a number of years ago.

Interesting.

The crowds in the streets appear pro-Erdogan, but don't seem to be attacking the troops. However, I have seen some people get shot on Sky News.

State news agency- a bomb has hit parliament.

Military- we are in complete control.

Turkish intel agency- situation is back to normal after an attempted coup.

Fog of war- ruling the night, as usual.

While the military has fired on some crowds, elsewhere they seem to be showing restraint.

Turkish TV is showing some soldiers being led away in handcuffs by police. Elsewhere, there are reports that senior military officers have been taken hostage. All is not going well for the army.

Nothing great is without sacrifice. :lifter

I hope that not many lives are lost in the process but, Obummer owns this...

It ain't Bush's fault after seven years of the most f'd up foreign policy in the history of the US.

Where is John Kerry at this moment? (Barfing in a toilet?) :rolleyes:

Kerry is in Moscow, sounding concerned. :munchin

I've heard Kremlin toilets are close to Japanese toilets they have a mouthwash sprayer build in. :p

Another one of those vile YouTube videos, eh...this one musta been a doozy...

Nice of the coup plotters to wait until Friday market closures.

Gives them 2 days to consolidate before Monday.

If still chaos then markets are going to hurt.

Surprised the Turkish PM is on TV.

Erdogan on FaceTime.

President Obama vocally supporting government.


And no Chief of Turkish Defense Force or service chiefs on TV.

Middle management coup?

Since Erdogan emasculated Turkish military reboot option a number of years ago.

Interesting.

This whole thing reminds me of Claus von Stauffenberg's failed coup in 1944 ("Valkyrie"). Right down to dramatic re-emergence of the targeted leader and failure to coordinate sufficiently between military departments.

another islamic shithole in conflict? Who cares?
 

Seriously who cares. Just send weapons and ammo to whatever islamic tribe wants them, you know same strategy we're currently applying to all islamic conflicts.

Who cares.

What we do need to do is stop taking muslims from islamic shit holes and bring them to the USA. Let them keep their own shitte.

Except Sweden, Sweden wishes to become extinct in the next hundred years and all reminiscent of their thousands year old culture destroyed by raping, looting, murdering muzzies and they're ok with that.

It appears to be mostly over. Erdogan said the coup plotters will be treated "harshly". This could spell the end of anti-Islamist senior military leadership. Let the purge begin.

According to CNN, U.S. aircraft currently cannot fly out of Incirlik to hit targets in Iraq and Syria (though Stars & Stripes says ops continue).

And a list of over 2,700 judges, high court judges and other high officials was produced and them sacked within 24 hours of the start of the coup attempt.

I think that list has been riding around in Erdogan's back pocket for a while.

Hmmm no leadership , no financiers, no logistics, no guerrilla force = failed Coup. There might be many hairy bowling balls rolling around Turkish prisons over the next few days.

It's being reported that ~ Erdogan cuts power to & closes USAFB #Incirlik airspace, stopping bombing runs against ISIS, demands US extradite Fethullah Gulen,

... and that ~ Secretary of Labor Süleyman Soylu live on news channel Haberturk: "The US is behind this coup"

Source ~ th3j35t3r

Isn't just before mid-night on a Friday an odd time to start a coup? Loads of civilians and tourists in the streets, Mosques have let out after pumping up the congregation, passenger aircraft still arriving at the airports. What could go wrong?

Zero three or zero four hours, every one is home snug in their beds and the only aircraft landing are freighters. Of the two choices, I'd pick the latter. But that's just me.

Pat

But the biggest global equity/bond/commodity markets had just closed. ;)

Not quite following you, mate, unless you are suggesting that Erdogan wanted to make sure that son Bilal's smuggled ISIS oil shipment price was locked in beforehand. ;)

Pat

To me, I'm wondering if the timing post market close was done by:

"Middle management military coup" leaders to avoid spooking global markets and evoke a quick sympathetic international response IF successful.

And/or

By Erdogan's team or Erdogan aligned factions to create a "Reichstag Fire" to allow for greater authoritarian crackdown conducted over the non-trading weekend to evoke involuntary support and/or reduce resistance from western trading partners.

Gotcha'! I'm starting to lean towards Door Number Two but, to be honest, hadn't considered Door Number One. Now, is there a Door Number Three?

Pat

Maybe door #3 is a combination of a failed door #1 quickly followed by an opportunistic "never let a good crisis go to waste" door#2.

According to Drudge, a significant purge of the officer corps is currently underway.

Sledgehammer emasculated the Turkish military capability at the senior chain of command level to hit thr Ataturk reboot button.

I'm guessing this will do the same at the middle management level.

That's an incredibly long list of police and military names for arrest.

Then you have the even longer list of judges removed and/or under arrest.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kLUktJbp2Ug

2700+ judges in the first 24 hours. Almost 2 per minute. A cynic might think the list was already made up just waiting for an opportunity to use it.

I'd love to see an unbiased Turk analysis on those judges previous decisions regarding Erdogan's network/cronies in corruption investigation/prosecution.

It sounds like there may be a summit meeting between Erdogan and Putin.

The role Turkish military personnel at Ircirlik Air Base played in the coup could be used by Russia and anti US Turkish elements to portray US involvement and create a bigger wedge between the two countries.

Looking out decades a Russian/Turkish partnership on energy distribution to Western Europe would allow such a partnership to extract an extremely high rent on Western Europe thru a partnered monopoly.

I know Russia and Turkey have historically not gotten on well(that's an understatement). But the profit/power motive would be quite compelling from a non emotional Machiavellian perspective.

Was watching some of the videos of the coup attempt. They made some very bad mistakes. Indiscriminate killing was a big mistake.

Also saw some idiot walk into the street and stand in the road in front of a fast approaching tank...... (Remember Tiananmen Square?). The tank didn't even slow down........

Can anyone remember conflicts/terrorist acts without muslims involved?

In order to have a chance the coup needed, among other things, to disappear Erdoğan and make it look like ISIS.

The insurgency needed to control the media and perhaps plant ISIS threats immediately before the event. The recent airport thing presumably gives such manufactured threats credibility.

The indiscriminate killing by the insurgents pointed out by TS created immediate sympathy for Erdoğan...then, his call to the people to take to the streets...some brown stains in insurgent shorts no doubt.

If you're gonna aim for the king you can't miss...

Now, Erdoğan's purge ain't gonna be pretty.

Turkey: A New Caliphate
 

Three months of marshal law and 50K prisoners...could Turkey be positioning itself to become the consolidator of the Sunni's, or the new Caliphate? The EU is not going to be too anxious to spend a lot of money in that hole in the desert and the US is going to be preoccupied with an election year, borders, and immigrating Syrians to give a damn what Turkey does. Just looks like there's more than a failed coup going on.