Obama exempts INTERPOL!
 

WHITE HOUSE LINK:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ve-order-12425

Story Link:
http://www.examiner.com/x-3132-Phila...re-on-US-lands

Obama exempts INTERPOL from search and seizure on US lands
December 22, 2009
Philadelphia Conservative Examiner
Clyde Middleton

The concept of granting immunity to foreign nationals in our country goes back at least as early as 1790 when we passed "An Act for the Punishment of Certain Crimes against the United States," wherein immunity was granted to foreign diplomats. (This Act was revised in 1798 by the (in)famous "Sedition Act.")

The immunities were not as broad as one would think, and that lack of a broad immunity has been tagged as a reason, among many, why the League of Nations failed. In 1945, at the same time as the United Nations was formed, we passed the United States International Organizations Immunities Act. This Act gave foreign diplomats many of the same rights as citizens and permanent residents - to enter into contracts, own real property, etc. Additional rights were given, and in particular was this:

Section 2(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.

This section of the Act is the legal force behind all those "diplomatic pouches" we see in movies that cannot be inspected.

Before we get our knickers in a bunch, there is logic to this immunity. While we like our Constitution and laws, other countries like their Constitution and laws. It doesn't matter if the concept of personal freedom is more expansive here. If we expect immunity in their country, we have to extend it to them here. So we're somewhat stuck - we need to dwell in reciprocity.

The issue has been litigated plenty, with DeLuca v. the United Nations, (41 F.3d 1502 (1994)) being one of the most important of recent vintage. Our courts have consistently upheld the concept of immunity for international organizations - even though to do so leaves an aggrieved American plaintiff with no legal recourse to correct their injury.

Along comes INTERPOL: The International Criminal Police Organization. INTERPOL "facilitates cross-border police co-operation, and supports and assists all organizations, authorities and services whose mission is to prevent or combat international crime."

In 1983, President Reagan signed Executive Order 12425:

By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act; except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.

Through EO 12425, President Reagan extended to INTERPOL recognition as an "International Organization." In short, the privileges and immunities afforded foreign diplomats was extended to INTERPOL. Two sets of important privileges and immunities were withheld: Section 2(c) (presented in full text above), and the remaining sections cited (all of which deal with differing taxes).

And then comes December 17, 2009, and President Obama. The exemptions in EO 12425 were removed:

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.

What does this mean?

It means that we have an international police force authorized to act within the United States that is no longer subject to 4th Amendment Search and Seizure. The "property and assets of [INTERPOL], wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation."

INTERPOL, an international criminal police organization, is now poised to reside above the United States Constitution - in a place of sanctity beyond our FBI, CIA, DIA, and all other criminal investigatory domestic organizations.

President Obama has just placed our Constitutional rights under international law.

Which is why we should withdraw from the United Nations and most other similar organizations. The USA has done 10x as much for the UN and these other groups than they have done for us.

Think bigger...

Investigations for war crimes for the invasion of Iraq, GITMO, "black sites", etc. As always with BHO, it's a witch hunt for the previous administration.

I was thinking it might have something to do with the Global Warming scam and the Global Carbon Police Times Online Article-Gordon Brown calls for new group to police global environment issues....but on second thought prosecution of so-called War Crimes looks to fit as well.

Whatever O is up to, I think it is fair to say he is selling the US down the river.

...all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Where does this fit when a foreigner deliberately violates the Constitution?

I'd be more than happy to help chip in to buy one way tickets for anyone who doesn't like it here.

Lot cheaper than paying for this abortion of a health care bill.

Diplomatic immunity from prosecution.
That doesn't mean that they aren't committing a crime.

Let 'em try an illegal search/seizure in a home in Colorado.

Any bets on the result of a jury trial? :munchin

I love Colorado, I wish Idaho had the Make My Day law.

INTERPOL would do well to tread very lightly with their new found superpowers, lest we use my favorite part of the Oath of Office against a perceived threat.

That supposes a jury trial in Colorado.

Given their immunity, what is to prevent them from arresting the person under some other set of laws in some other locale? And then transporting the person to their preferred venue?

In a case like that, I would expect the Federal court to take jurisdiction and a judge there to incarcerate you for the rest of your life.

Once you see that happen the first time, and know that is what they are after you for, better to go out in a blaze of glory.

TR

WM -

I'm not sure I'm picking up what you're putting down. . .

Are you saying that that INTERPOL is a criminal organization? That INTERPOL agents will start kicking in doors? I don't believe those concerns are entirely founded. As I understand INTERPOL, they are essentially an LNO organization between the world's national police forces to facilitate criminal intelligence cross borders. They don't have an "action arm," as it were and are forbidden by their constitution from interfering with member state's affairs. The 3rd Article reads: "It is strictly forbidden for the Organization to undertake any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character."

Also, what I read from the change in law is that INTERPOL is now elevated to the same status as other diplomats while they conduct affairs in the US. While I don't think this is necessarily a good thing, I don't think it's as bad as you guys are making it out to be. We conduct investigations on the diplos all the time and while we can't look into their bags, we can kick them out of the country, turn 'em PNG.

What I'm not sure about is why this was done in the first place. As the article states, the diplomatic immunity is a two-way street with other countries. But what do we get out of this deal from INTERPOL? Also kids, a reminder of civics: BHO didn't write the law, he signed it. Who ginned it up in the House and Senate? This law has a history and I'm interested to know where it came from.

As far as the Islamic community trying to criminalize critical discussion in the US, so long as we have a strong separation of Church and State, Mohammad can go pound sand.

And as for the concerns about searches/seizures by the black booted ones, I think the rest of the world knows that we've taken the defense of our bill of rights seriously enough to enshrine the right to bear arms in them.

my .02 cents . . . :munchin

Books

Books:

You do understand what an Executive Order is, don't you?

TR

For now the world does...

It is unfortunate the entire Congress doesnt share in our belief that the 2nd Amendment applies at the individual level... That's a topic for another discussion though.

If you use lawful force to defend yourself in Colorado, it's best to stay in Colorado thereafter.

Heh, heh.
Officer without jurisdiction/authority to arrest?

Any bets on that jury trial?

Eventually, the ruse would be exposed for what it is.
As TR stated, a few blazes of glory might follow.

In the end, whoever holds the guns makes the rules.

Does the US have any agencies (maybe DSS or CIA) that are allowed these same privileges outside the US? And/Or is our privilege limited to matters in which a US Citizen is involved?

Gawd - more hyperbolic BS than a feedlot full of recyclable fertilizer. :eek:

Does anybody know how to read anymore - or does everyone just take whatever is posted on the WWW as e-gospel fact to energize their emotionally charged, conclusion jumping exercise programs.

BHOs ExOrd merely shortened the redundancy of the pervious ExOrd and left the following (which pretty much sums up the rest of the relevant sections) in place:

Title 1 - Section 2 (d) Insofar as concerns customs duties and internal-revenue taxes imposed upon or by reason of importation, and the procedures in connection therewith; the registration of foreign agents; and the treatment of official communications, the privileges, exemptions, and immunities to which international organizations shall be entitled shall be those accorded under similar circmstances to foreign governments.

If anybody wants to read the original Act under discussion as revisited by Congress HR 4489 dtd 29 Dec 1945 because of the necessity related to the recognition of new NGOs (such as the UN) and which is the Act actually being cited in the ExOrds - it can be found at:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24429759/U...s-Act-of-1945#

MOO - it would be better to put the e-megaphones away, take a chill pill, and save the misplaced outrage for some of the REAL issues we're facing out there. ;)

Richard's jaded $.02 :munchin

A little hyperbole goes a long way towards inducing apoplectic fits in some liberals.
(YOU CAN"T SAY THAT!!!)
Great fun.:D

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Updating the second link:
http://threatswatch.org/analysis/200...r_sovereignty/

Wait a tick.

Why would an international crime fighting organization NEED "diplomatic immunity" in the United States anyway? Furthermore, why would they NEED their own passports without entry visas? What are they hiding? If they're cops, they shouldn't be breaking US law then right? Why would they conduct unilateral crime fighting operations in the US?

A point of order: not everyone assigned to a US diplomatic post overseas has diplomatic immunity. You'd be surprised how FEW Americans actually have immunity at an Embassy or Consulate. A US dip PP does NOT equal immunity.

From the NRA.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Fe...d.aspx?id=5284

INTERPOL’s constitution prohibits ‘any intervention or activities of a political, military, religious or racial character.’ But they are also the worlds largest Policing organization; so why should they receive diplomatic type immunities from our LE organizations and FOIA?

Particularly:
Ronald Noble, who became Secretary General of Interpol after serving as Undersecretary for Enforcement of the Treasury, said in his 9/20/05 re-election acceptance speech:
Article on the topic:

Continued...
A concerned Tennessee resident on the topic:

Andrew McCarthy on this decision and what may be behind it.

11:25 Andrew McCarthy on Obama’s executive order on Interpol & the trans-nationalist ideology behind it.

21:00 Douglas Murray describes how the UK may be finally tackling home-grown Islamofascism.

34:30 General Paul Vallely on the Navy SEALs' Trial and Obama’s contrasting treatment of Major Nidal Hasan.


AUDIO AT LINK: (Start at 11:25)
http://www.securefreedomradio.org/20...-paul-vallely/