How do you do it?
 

What's your technique and why?

Re: How do you do it?
 

I do what my instructor tells me to do. If I am not doing it, it is because I am dumb. LOL

My preference: Over the top, weak handed.

As I was taught by an old Army vet. Allows me to maintain stronghanded "normal" grip on weapon while racking, can catch ejected round if clearing weapon, and it feels more natural as I train to reload the weapon with off hand while maintaining same position with pistol in my grip.

Re: Shut UP
 

Feeling pretty froggy today, eh, doctor? LMAO

Re: Re: Shut UP
 

Ain't he though...:munchin

Re: Re: Re: Shut UP
 

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Depends on if it's a tactical-vs-combat reload to include some types of malfunction.

TAP-RACK- BANG(squeeze).

Good point Guy. If you go over the top, its pretty much the same movements as for IA on a stoppage, which running out of ammo basically is, a type of stoppage. The other thing is, going over the top is gross motor, where as the release is more fine. And Mr. Harsey already explained what happens to fine motor skills under stress.

Re: Shut UP
 

Be very careful with this if the round moves in the chamber while you are moving the slide to the rear, the ejector can hit the primer and send that round into your weak hand.

Its best if you rack the slide and let the bullet fall to the ground.

Unless you don't need all of your digits. :)

Generally use the over the top method, occasionally, depending on the weapon, I like the slide release.

I just saw that "catch the round thing".

Saca, you ever do that on a range I'm running, your chest will be bigger than the Governator of Kalifornia's from all the 8 count pushups you'll be doing.

I hate that shit.

Roger Sarn't.

(Btw- good catch Joe. My fingers, family, and career counselor thank you)

Over the top weak hand.
 

Over the top weak hand.

This technique in my opinion has proven to be more effective simply because if you do have a stoppage that is protruding from the barrel, the over the top weak hand technique, allows you to clear the stoppage in one sweep and keep the weapon pointed on target. Plus this technique minimizes any part of your hand being caught in the slide action. Just my 2euros worth.

Well, I think the slide release is faster.:munchin

Then Why didn't you vote for it?:munchin

I haven't voted yet.

Fair enough

Are we voting on how we rack the slide on a fresh mag, not locked back, or are we voting on how we release the locked slide on a fresh mag?

I pull from the back, generally unless I have my weak hand occupied then I go for the slide release....

METT-T? ;)

release from locked back after a mag change.

You use METT-T to release your slide?

Sure, I have METT-T written on my glove in black marker.

:)

Slide release, strong hand.

TR

Agreed, its the best method.

Sorry to nitpick, but the poll is poorly worded.

To "rack it," in my opinion, would be asking how you lock your slide to the rear, or how you cycle the slide to clear a stoppage.

I use weak hand, over the top, just like I was taught on the M1911 long ago at SOT.

To release the slide after dropping an empty mag and replacing it with a full mag, I hit the slide release with my strong hand, again, just as I was taught.

Funny.....thinking back on it, John Bone was running the joint back then. The next time that I saw him, he was the sergeant major at USAJFKSWC, or was it SOCOM? I forget. The poor guy was HATED.

Well, exxxxcccuuuusssseee me! LOL:boohoo

TS pushups Done and your pm is inbound
 

Didnt read the ENTIRE forum. Push-ups done TS.

Normally I try not to lock out. I usually count my shots leaving one in the pipe then do a magazine change. If I do lock out then of course I would utilize the slide release. I was refering to a drill in the case of a malfunction. Sorry TS now can I have some of your popcorn:)

L5

not to jump on anyone's reply......but a) isn't it a support hand, there should be no weak hands in shooting and b) anyway that keeps you in the fight that works for you everytime and then for the exception have that scenerio worked out so it becomes the 'everytime'
Just my 2 cents........
T-2

just tell me to keep my ideas to myself and go back and play doctor.........

I know you guys aren't Glock shooters; but don't do this with a Glock it will break the slide stop leaver.


I would love to be able to use the slide release but being a lefty so I'm stuck with the weak hand rack.

Re: TS pushups Done and your pm is inbound
 

I'm not the Team Sergeant, "just" the Senior Medic.

SWAT Surgeon - I agree, if it works, it works.

Joe - I haven't had any problems with that, or even heard of it. Not doubting your experience though.

A few notes here,

swatSurgeon, many techniques will work, some are just more efficient than others. While it might be nice to have both hands equal, there’s always going to be a “weak” hand.

Smoking Joe, I’d never slam a slide on an empty chamber, this can cause damage to a handgun, on the other hand, I always slam the slide shut with the slide release to load the handgun. This ensures proper bullet seating every time. If the gun cannot handle it, then its time for a new gun.

On proper gun handling never “ride” the slide forward when loading a round, this can cause the round not to seat properly. This also takes up waaaay too much time, time I’m not wasting in a gunfight.

Sorry to hear the lefty problems you’re encountering woth the Glock, I use HK USP’s for all serious work, and even if I were lefty everything on a HK can be switched to the other side.:D

TS

I have never heard of a breakage by using the slide stop to drop the slide with a loaded mag in the weapon. If it did, Glock would have some explaining to do.

Dropping the slide on an empty chamber/no mag is a bad idea on any pistol, and will ruin a 1911 trigger job. My gunsmith used to tell me to ride it down by hand, or release the slide with the trigger pulled. I could not bring myself to put my finger on the trigger when not engaging a target, so I just accustomed myself to releasing the slide by hand and riding it down on an empty chamber. On a reload, I use the slide release.

TR

Gentlemen,

I got it from the source when I went to the Glock Armorer's School in May.

I have yet to see one break myself but Glock say's "Rack the slide, do not use the slide stop lever. B/C it will break"

There words not mine I'm just trying to pass the info along.

TS,

I'm a huge HK fan myself but I can't carry one at work. So I only have a P7M8. If things work out maybe I will be able to carry one soon. :)

Tell Glock this...
 

I shot the rails off of my G17! Never had a problem with the slide release/lock nor have the students I have taught.:munchin

TS/ Reaper,
What causes the damage if the slide closes on an empty chamber? Or maybe a better way to phrase the question is what is it about the cartridge that prevents damage to the pistol when the round is chambered? Just trying to visualize what's going on inside the firearm.

Smokin Joe
Thanks for the advice. Just picked up a somewhat used G17 from a buddy last week so I'll need to keep it in mind.

It takes energy from the forward momentum of the slide to strip a round from the mag, and feed it into the chamber.

That slows it down and reduces the impact of internal parts considerably.

TR

Reaper,
I see what you're saying. I'm thinking this also explains the injunction against loading a round into the chamber and dropping the slide on it. When I first read the TS's comments my first thought was the friction of the round in the chamber was slowing the slide down, but that didn't make much sense. The friction of the round being held in place by the mag spring makes much more sense. Thanks for your reply.

No, I think that has more to do with 1) inertial firing pins and 2) forcing the extractor over the rim of the round, rather than it catching the round from underneath as it slides in from the mag.

TR

The professional IPSC and industry IDPA competitive right handed shooters all use left hand thumb manipulation of the slide release during slide lock two handed reloads as the fastest technique to maximize economy of movement and resulting split times to resume engagement of targets.

Reloading from slide lock with only one functional appendage is another matter, and constitutes a dedicated CF at best under stress or not.

I must be missing something?
 

Are you saying "It is quicker to manipulate the slide release with your non-firing hand while doing a reload"?

Re: I must be missing something?
 

Yes, at least in the competative shooting sports, the fastest reload techninique is to manipulates the slide release with the non-firing hand when reloading from slide lock.