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1stindoor 09-23-2010 07:41

Rangers, by that I mean the Regiment, have had a love/hate relationship with us for years. Primarily because their "best" tended to migrate over to our side of the Army. Of course we in SF felt the same way at times towards our brothers in some of our more unique units. It's funny to me how some of the "Rangers" I've met in group used to whine about how much better it was in 1/75, 2/75, etc...yet there has never been a mass exodus of people going back after a deployment or two. Something about a TDY voucher, a pallet of gear, an expectation of performance in the absence of a "command" element, I could go on, but I think you get the idea.

I don't think the animosity is due to our name...afterall, before we had a designated Special Operations Force, i.e. Rangers...we were designated Special Forces. The three lightening bolts on our patch is for Sea, Air and Land...yet we don't "hate" the SEALs for having that moniker....although we often wonder where the training comes from to keep that ball on their nose.

2pnoty03 10-06-2010 11:52

There right now
 
I had to let my detailer and CO know I was going blue to green last week. That was bad enough. Then I requested liberty for the SFRE and the shit hit the fan. The only way to look at it is a challenge to overcome. Senior 18A I talked to said this, "Those that can't, won't support." It seems to just be a fact of life.

69harley 10-07-2010 07:29

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Originally Posted by 1stindoor (Post 349621)
Rangers, by that I mean the Regiment, have had a love/hate relationship with us for years. Primarily because their "best" tended to migrate over to our side of the Army.

Another perspective from inside the Ranger Regiment: Many fire team and squad leaders left the Rangers to join SF because they were never going any higher the regiment. Same thing with guys in the 82nd. SF offered a fresh start, long hair and oakleys. Almost everyone I knew in the Ranger Regiment and the 82nd that left to go to SF did so so for what I thought were the wrong reasons.

Ret10Echo 10-07-2010 12:02

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Originally Posted by 2pnoty03 (Post 351438)
I had to let my detailer and CO know I was going blue to green last week. That was bad enough. Then I requested liberty for the SFRE and the shit hit the fan. The only way to look at it is a challenge to overcome. Senior 18A I talked to said this, "Those that can't, won't support." It seems to just be a fact of life.


Seems to me that the closer the "regular" military is to the SF world, the more harsh the feelings.

I came over as a comms guy in a armor unit. Even as a section chief I was give a huge amount of leeway in my schedule to train, to the point where the BC and CO were going to arrange for me to get to the West for some land nav work (I was in Berlin at the time).

Being in Group the only real angst I witnessed was usually from the unit leadership as we were generally seen as a poor example to their soldiers. On occasion that may have been true, on other occasions it was totally undeserved. I had a large-army-unit XO harass me endlessly while working LNO duty for the SOCCE (I was in the Division TOC). It was fun and games until he put a round in the clearing barrel. I think me smiling at him and snickering for the 48 hours it took for his extraction were the most painful time of his life. :D You know what they say about Karma...


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