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mark46th 07-11-2013 15:58

"Maybe it's time for COIN?" Trapper


"C.O.I.N."- Call On In (the) Nukes...

Trapper John 07-12-2013 05:24

An interesting post from Pamella Geller: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...port-them.html

Although this is in the UK, IIRC a US based Imam advocated the same thing. Weren't the Boston bombers and their family on the public dole? Looks like a tactic to me.

Yep, this is an insurgency. JMO for what it's worth.

Team Sergeant 07-12-2013 08:15

We should create a map of where islam is at war with other nations/peoples..... I don't believe the sheeple realize how many current worldwide conflicts involve islam and muslims. I can only think of one place that islam has yet to create a conflict, Central and South America.

Trapper John 07-12-2013 08:21

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 515020)
We should create a map of where islam is at war with other nations/peoples..... I don't believe the sheeple realize how many current worldwide conflicts involve islam and muslims. I can only think of one place that islam has yet to create a conflict, Central and South America.

Good idea TS :lifter I was appalled (not surprised) at the Islamist attack on a Buddhist temple last week.:mad: Buddhists for godsake!

Team Sergeant 07-12-2013 08:27

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Originally Posted by Trapper John (Post 515022)
Good idea TS :lifter I was appalled (not surprised) at the Islamist attack on a Buddhist temple last week.:mad: Buddhists for godsake!

Exactly my point. The world has no idea that most of the current conflicts and "terrorist" attacks are being carried out by muslims on behalf of allah.

Trapper John 07-12-2013 14:45

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 515023)
Exactly my point. The world has no idea that most of the current conflicts and "terrorist" attacks are being carried out by muslims on behalf of allah.

As a point of clarification, in future posts I suggest we use the following lexicon: Islamist to mean the followers of Islam. Muslim to mean the worshipers of Allah but not necessarily followers of Muhammad and therefor not Islamist.

I am not sure if that is or even can be generally accepted, but it seems to me that there is a segment of the Muslim world that are not followers of Islam and Muhammad. They are not, or at least appear not, to condone the actions of the Islamists. There seems to be a natural rift occurring along those lines. Promoting such a lexicon may be a way of promoting and/or hastening the rift.

Promoting the notion that we are at war with Islam also will hasten the rift IMO.

Just thought I would throw that out there and see what everyone thinks - PRB???

hotshot 07-12-2013 19:35

Check this out
 
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 515020)
We should create a map of where islam is at war with other nations/peoples..... I don't believe the sheeple realize how many current worldwide conflicts involve islam and muslims. I can only think of one place that islam has yet to create a conflict, Central and South America.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-11...2hhrg72255.pdf

V/R,

CH

T-Rock 07-12-2013 21:38

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As a point of clarification, in future posts I suggest we use the following lexicon: Islamist to mean the followers of Islam. Muslim to mean the worshipers of Allah but not necessarily followers of Muhammad and therefor not Islamist.

I am not sure if that is or even can be generally accepted, but it seems to me that there is a segment of the Muslim world that are not followers of Islam and Muhammad. They are not, or at least appear not, to condone the actions of the Islamists. There seems to be a natural rift occurring along those lines. Promoting such a lexicon may be a way of promoting and/or hastening the rift.

Promoting the notion that we are at war with Islam also will hasten the rift IMO.

Just thought I would throw that out there and see what everyone thinks - PRB???
For some reason the following posts came to mind when I read your suggestion Sir:

> http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...9&postcount=10
> http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ad.php?t=25244

Stobey 07-12-2013 21:42

ISLAM IN CENTRAL & S. AMERICA
 
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 515020)
We should create a map of where islam is at war with other nations/peoples..... I don't believe the sheeple realize how many current worldwide conflicts involve islam and muslims. I can only think of one place that islam has yet to create a conflict, Central and South America.


Concur. "Yet" is the operative word here. Just wait until demographics start to shift - by "converts" and by their secret weapon. (see below)

Trapper John 07-13-2013 04:47

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Originally Posted by T-Rock (Post 515131)
For some reason the following posts came to mind when I read your suggestion Sir:

> http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...9&postcount=10
> http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ad.php?t=25244

EXACTLY :lifter This goes hand-in-hand with what I have being saying about the virtue of Intolerance.

I suggest that is time for us to begin the first steps of a counter insurgency (COIN) operation - information dissemination.

What about taking this into a Blog? We could write articles like the ones Warrior-Mentor posted, the map that Team Sergeant suggested, and more.

We could set up an editorial board to review and edit suggested articles before they are posted.

Think about it, this is how the American Revolution started - Federalist Papers and the like. We can do this again and we saw the effect we could have with the 2nd A letter.

We are Special Forces and this is what we do very, very well!

Trapper John 07-13-2013 04:52

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:lifter

Trapper John 07-16-2013 09:40

And so it goes - http://weaselzippers.us/2013/07/16/m...tate-of-jihad/

Streck-Fu 07-18-2013 06:32

Don't report a rape in Dubai.....LINK

Woman jailed for reporting rape
July 17, 2013

A Norwegian woman who reported to police in Dubai that she’d been raped while on a business trip in the fast-growing Gulf city ended up being jailed herself. Her sentence is longer than her convicted rapist’s.

The 25-year-old’s trip to Dubai in March turned into a nightmare after she reported the rape and was jailed for having had sex outside of marriage and for drinking alcohol. Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported that her passport was seized and she wasn’t allowed to borrow a telephone for three days. Then she called her family in Norway.

They mobilized the Foreign Ministry, and Norway’s consulate in Dubai managed to get her out of jail and housed at the local Norwegian Seamans Church, where she remained until her sentence recently was handed down: prison for one year and four months. Her attacker was sentenced to one year and one month, Anniken Meling of the Seamans Church told NRK.

The foreign ministry reported that Norway has no extradition treaty with Dubai, which was described as a Muslim police state. That means tourists and visitors are usually safe as long as they follow local laws. They include laws against extra-marital sex and drinking outside of restaurants and bars in the biggest hotels, leaving rape victims vulnerable. An appeal was pending.

bassbuckeye 07-18-2013 11:40

As a Psyop guy I can't wait to read this book.......but of course the Russians created this Islamic environment with a "disinformation" campaign like no other



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By 1972, Andropov's disinformation machinery was working around the clock to persuade the Islamic world that the U.S. intended to transform the rest of the world into a Zionist fiefdom. He wanted us to convince Muslims that the U.S. Congress was a "Council of the Elders of Zion" which conspired to have the Jews take over the world. If we whipped up Muslim anti-Semitism, then terrorism and violence against Israel and America would naturally follow.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...#ixzz2ZQ6HIxkQ

T-Rock 07-20-2013 02:53

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As a Psyop guy I can't wait to read this book.......but of course the Russians created this Islamic environment with a "disinformation" campaign like no other
Looks like an interesting read….

However, regarding the United States, and Islamic terrorism - if Andropov thought their disinformation campaign was successful, a question I would like to ask him would be why did the Jihadists attack us in 1783, only 7 years following the declaration of independence, before anyone had a chance to touch off any sort of disinformation campaign against the US?


Another book that you may find of interest is called “The Lie That Wouldn’t Die: The Protocol of the Elders of Zion”
http://www.amazon.com/The-Lie-That-W.../dp/0853035954


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