so...I'm wondering....what kind of Nazi recruiting took place in CONUS during WWII?:rolleyes:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533525,00.html

The Bunds?
 

I done have it at my fingertips but I believe it/they were called Bunds(sp?). Chapters were quite active in northern US cities, and other countries prior to the US going into the war on the side of the Allies. They recruited people of Germanic origin to go back and fight for the fatherland.

There were a number of SS Divisions with a western origin or flavor.

Yep - many Americans - including Charles Lindbergh - were enamored with and openly supportive of the ideas of National Socialism...and Eugenics.

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Here's an interesting CalState-Northridge exhibition on the GABund in Southern California:

http://digital-library.csun.edu/back...can-bund1.html

You've stirred my interest just a little so I'll have to do some research on the subject. I have read before that a number of American citizens returned to the Fatherland before or during WW II and fought on their side. One story in particular that I remember reading was about a couple of Americans who died during the battle of Stalingrad. That titanic struggle along with the battle of Kursk are of great historical interest to me.

Here is the link to the terrorist conference at the Hilton hotel on the 19th

http://www.investigativeproject.org/...chicago-suburb

Up until the U.S. became actively involved in WWII, there were many National Socialist programs being considered for adoption by our government. Hell, the PA Turnpike is modeled after the Autobahn, but Federal and State politics screwed that up so bad, its in no way comparable to the Autobahn today.

Ive also seen the term Radical Islamic Nazi or the combination being used on this thread. That is in no way a far fetched idea. Here is a good primer for your enlightenment:

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/ This features Amin Al Husseini, the reputed "Nazi Father of Jihad". If this has been posted previousely I apologize, I did try to find reference to this article using the ever friendly search option.

And many of these troops used captured American uniforms and materiel and infiltrated the American lines:

THE ENEMY BEHIND OUR LINES
1. First US Army Traffic Control Section reports that
German soldiers in US uniforms are operating in the Army area
in a 1/4 ton Jeep, number 20504455, bumper marking MP
ASCZ C-5.
2. All AGO cards found on Germans in US uniforms
have, on the left hand fold, the inscription:
“W.D. A.G.O. Form No. 65.4.”
The cards also differ slightly from the one normally
carried by officers which is: W.D. A.G.O. Form No. 65-1, in
that in addition to the bearers signature, it is also countersigned
just below the signature of Officer. The AGO cards are brand
new, filled out by the German himself, signed by him, and then
dirtied up a bit – but the creases in the card can usually be
spotted as new.
3. Germans in the “Jeep parties” of Einheit STIELAU
have been instructed that the proper way to identify themselves
behind the American lines is to show their Soldier’s Paybook –
not a word about dog-tags. So far, of the men captured, only
two carried dog-tags with them, and they picked them up on
their own initiatives.. The Paybooks given them are taken from
our own P/Ws.
4. There are four grades of English speakers among
the STIELAU personnel – Group I is the best. The German
Officer is usually Group II which explains why he acts as a GI
and not as an American Officer. The best speaker acts as an
officer and sits beside the driver. The German officer sits
(normally) on the left rear and whispers instructions in the ear of
the German soldier posing as one of our officers. The worst
English speaker (usually Group III or Group IV) i s always the
driver. Therefore, the best way to trap these “Jeep Parties” is to
ask the driver for his trip ticket, and then ask the driver some
questions which he will have to answer.
5. None of the captured Germans in GI uniforms have
known their so-called serial number.
6. Jeep markings already identified on vehicles
carrying enemy personnel include VIII Corps, 8th Armored Div
– but in most cases 5th Armored Div. For some obscure reason,
the number of the Jeep (on the right hand side) is considered a
weak point by the Germans and is usually half obliterated with
mud.
7. All staff cars used by Germans captured so far
have been French Citroens – painted OD, complete with star.
However, reports have been received of Germans in civilian
sedans. Staff cars definitely should be stopped and our MP’s
must forget all rank when they ask for dog tags, ASN, etc.
Some of these GI-clad Germans are posing as high-ranking
officers. Rumor has it that von BEHR, one of the leaders of the
group, will be posing as a Brigadier General.
8 It must not be forgotten that these “Jeep parties” are
heavily armed and that the men realize that they are on a
desperate mission. Keep all suspicious Jeeps and their
occupants well covered while inspecting credentials.
9. It is reported that some members of the “Jeep
parties” have now exchanged their 1/4 tons for 3/4 ton trucks.
10. Most recent method of long-distance identification,
reported by captured” Jeep Parties,” is the holding of a rifle in
both hands, raising 2 ??? Above head and moving rifle up and
down.. Lights of various colors may now be used – or
combinations of colors – as permitted by the German Army
issue flashlight.
11. Greater scrutiny of all vehicles obtaining gas from
units and supply installations is required. These Jeeps are now
operating on gasoline they are obtaining from US Army sources.
One “Jeep Party” was captured recently at an Ordnance
Maintenance unit where they took the vehicle for repair.
Source: First US Army G-2 Periodic Report No. 199, 26 Dec 1944,
as reported in Third US Army G-2 periodic Report No. 203 dated 31 Dec 44,

Maybe we need to do a better job of enforcing code.:munchin

The SS recruited from throughout the west (and amongst others) for their Freiwilligen (foreign volunteers) legions in their proclaimed "fight against bolshevism."

These volunteers wore a national shield on their left sleeve below the SS eagle and came from the UK (a battalion which wore a Union Jack sleeve shield), Croatia (including Bosnian Muslims - 13th SS Mountain Div which wore a dark red fez for dress uniform and a field gray one in the mountains of the Balkans), Galicia, Latvia, Lithuania, Albania, Hungary, Belgium, Russia, Italy, France, Denmark, Norway, Holland, India, and amongst the Cossacks of Eastern Europe.

I have never run across any information on any American SS participation. :confused:

The Bender/Taylor books (I have most of them) and a series put out by the Imperial War Museum are some of the most authoritative (if you can find them) as is the book put out by the former members of the Waffen SS themselves - Wenn alle Bruder schweigen - which I picked up when stationed in Bad Tolz.

An interesting subject for study.

Richard's $.02 :munchin

I realize CITIZENS are protected with the 1st Amendment....are any of the people that lead, speak, and participate in this conference (and past ones) American Citizens? If they are NOT citizens, they are NOT protected! If they are advocating the overthrow of our goverment and terrorism, THROW THEM OUT! When are we going to finally say "enough is enough". I am tired of hearing, "we should try to understand their culture and religion". Well, what about OUR culture and OUR religion? When did our worth as American citizens, our culture and our beliefs get thrown under the bus??!! Why is this sort of thing allowed? Why is DHS a sleep at the wheel? :mad:
Sorry...rant over!!

CNN just discovered "son of Hamas." Great story. I predict a spike in book sales.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...spy/index.html

Sunni make up roughly 80-90% of all Moslems.
Another point to consider is that old literature from Al-Azhar University pre-dates Saudi oil money (wahhabi influence), and Al-Azhar University is the oldest of all universities in the Moslem world. It was established in 971 A.D. by the Fatimid (Shiite) dynasty. The Reliance of the Traveller was written in the 14th century, was [is] praised by Sunni & Shia alike, and it carries the endorsement of Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam - just a thought…

And IIRC it notes in the introduction that 75-80% of Sunni Islamic Jurisprudence is identical... T-Rock can find the exact quote... my copy is packed up with the move right now...