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larfive 07-19-2004 07:41

Love to Point shoot
 
Point shooting is all I ever trained on. I know it my seem I'm limiting myself but I have always been taught to keep my eyes on the target not the sights. My old man was always training us for in house shooting, hence the importance on point shooting.

I love it myself. The only reason I ever look at my sights are in low visability, (and that takes about a split second) to make sure the weapon is leveled. At night we tend to shoot high so that is the only reason I do it. In "serious social work" missing your target sucks, what even sucks worse is you missed because of the time it would take to aquire target acquisition. Which brings me to my next subject.

I just started using Ghost rings on my Glock and .45. They allow you fast target aquisition with both eyes open and as long as you have the area of aquisition within the ring you will more than likely hit your target. I am not a big fan of using sights unless I'm behind my SAKO TRG41, but these Ghost rings are very good. I know their not knew but compared to how I have been shooting they do make a difference in my thinking towards sights on hand guns.

LarV

NousDefionsDoc 07-19-2004 07:53

Quote:

you will more than likely hit your target.
And therein lies the problem. "More than likely" ain't sat in our world.:munchin

larfive 07-19-2004 09:16

Right your are Doc
 
Tushae NDD,

Right you are. Just my opinion of them. Im a sure that with more time on the range, that quote can be cleared right up.

L5

Sacamuelas 07-19-2004 09:33

Re: Love to Point shoot
 
Quote:

Originally posted by larfive
They allow you fast target aquisition with both eyes open ...
You shoot with one eye closed when using standard sights on a pistol???

Team Sergeant 07-19-2004 09:38

Re: Re: Love to Point shoot
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sacamuelas
You shoot with one eye closed when using standard sights on a pistol?


I do and it works quite well for me.

But then again, what do I know.

TS

Sacamuelas 07-19-2004 09:39

You advocating me shooting/practicing with one eye closed Team Sergeant?

NousDefionsDoc 07-19-2004 09:42

Re: Re: Re: Love to Point shoot
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Team Sergeant
But then again, what do I know.

TS

LOL

Sacamuelas 07-19-2004 09:55

I have a picture somewhere of a certain Team Sergeant shooting a 'quiet' pistol... BOTH his eyes are open, facing target with isoscles stance with arms extended straught out towards target.

Team Sergeant-
Were you taking out a target of opportunity (me) by saying that you "can" shoot with one eye closed when you want... or was your post meant as I read it, to say that you almost always shoot with one eye closed?

I am interested, really, as I have always shot with both eyes open. :munchin

CPTAUSRET 07-19-2004 09:57

Great thread!

Terry

Team Sergeant 07-19-2004 10:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Sacamuelas
You advocating me shooting/practicing with one eye closed Team Sergeant?
Not at all tooth puller.

I would however advise against questioning someone’s shooting techniques until you’ve dropped the hammer on 500,000-1,000,000 or so rounds, or of course attended some world class shooting school.

You don’t see me questioning anyone’s surgical techniques do you?

TS

Kyobanim 07-19-2004 10:30

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark

Guy 07-19-2004 10:39

Depending on the distance....
 
Determines whether I shoot with both eyes open or one eye closed.

larfive 07-19-2004 11:25

Re: Re: Love to Point shoot
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sacamuelas
You shoot with one eye closed when using standard sights on a pistol???
NEGATIVE brother,

I always shoot with both eyes on the target! I only used the sights on the pistol for night shooting just to ensure my weapon is level. :)

L5

Guy 07-19-2004 12:09

Re: Re: Re: Love to Point shoot
 
Quote:

Originally posted by larfive
NEGATIVE brother,

I always shoot with both eyes on the target! I only used the sights on the pistol for night shooting just to ensure my weapon is level. :)

L5

You damn sure will not be hitting a moving target while keeping both eyes on the target.

Target shooting is just that...TARGET SHOOTING!

Combat shooting...that damn target aint standing still. Throw in shooting & moving and you will miss every time unless you are acquiring a front sight pic and tracking the target.

Roguish Lawyer 02-06-2007 20:30

I have finished Kill or Get Killed by COL Rex Applegate. The section on point shooting reminded me of this thread, which I have now re-read. I think there are several erroneous statements in the thread, and that the following are correct:

1. COL Applegate maintains that point shooting is an offensive, not defensive, method. (Chapter 5, first paragraph). In fact, he says that "defensive shooting" is a fallacy.

2. He advocates learning to shoot without using the sights at all only in close quarters (less than 50 feet).

3. He says that training to shoot without sights is important because the shooter may lack the time or light needed to use the sights, not that aiming is not a good idea.

4. He refers to a study which found a dramatic improvement in shoot-house performance after point-shooting training is provided.

5. His suggested method for raising the weapon seems to differ from the Team Sergeant's method.


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