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Sacamuelas 06-25-2005 08:41

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
BTW, Sacamuelas when I click the link you provided, it says I do not have the priviledges to open that page. Do I need permission from a moderator or something?

I fixed it. You could not see the original, the one now should be viewable.

Good Luck and :lifter hard!!!

sterling 06-26-2005 12:54

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
Well yeah, that's the problem though, I have no method of transportation right now and I live out in the boonies essentially, so there are no buses or trains or anything, like in a city.

I did walk over to the track though, only to find that it is locked with a sign saying "Trespassers will be prosecuted, blah blah blah" (i.e. Keep out). I don't know why'd they'd lock up the track, though. It's just a track, after all. I'm going to go back tomorrow; maybe it gets locked up around 2:00 or something, but is open earlier in the day. I'll have to check.

I have a great place to ruck, completely out in the sun with very rough terrain that goes uphill; it only goes for about one-half of a mile, but I figure I would just ruck it, then turn around, ruck back, then turn around, ruck back, etc....to count up miles. If I get desparate for running, I'll just use one of the really big fields and run circles around that.

Thanks for the advice though.

Here is an idea. Call the Track Administrator, Track Coach or Athletic Director and ask what the public use hours are for the track. Always remember stay out of the first three lanes, nothing pisses off the track team more than someone they view as just some "Pin Chi" jogger getting in their way while they do speed work.

lksteve 06-27-2005 10:01

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
Yeah, I'll have to check into that. Hey Sacamuelas, the link you provided shows a picture of a guy in a pushup position......is that what it is supposed to show?

i see a guy doing push-ups...and i believe that would be Sacamuelas' advice to you...start with 50 or so and keep doing them until i get tired... :munchin

Dustin03 07-07-2005 19:31

Is running until I throw-up, then working out right after until I throw-up a good thing? I think it might have been because of the chicken I ate about 45 minutes before, but I haven't worked THAT hard in a long time.

I can usually hold down anything that wants to come back up, but for some reason today was different.

lksteve 07-07-2005 20:33

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Originally Posted by Dustin03
Is running until I throw-up, then working out right after until I throw-up a good thing?

no...you need food...you should either PT before you eat or give yourself some time to digest before you work out...were i you, i'd probably do a little research online...do a little Google-fu as TR might point out...

NousDefionsDoc 07-07-2005 21:25

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Originally Posted by Dustin03
Is running until I throw-up, then working out right after until I throw-up a good thing? I think it might have been because of the chicken I ate about 45 minutes before, but I haven't worked THAT hard in a long time.

I can usually hold down anything that wants to come back up, but for some reason today was different.

DAMN son, what the hell's the matter with you? Wait at least two hours after you eat before running. Ideally, you should workout before you eat or just eat a little power bar or something if you can't wait. You ate while watching tv and then went to run when the show was over didn't you?

Dustin03 07-07-2005 23:00

no sir, i was sitting here at the computer, eating some chicken fingers, drinking water, and then i decided it's about as hot as it's gonna get today so I think I'll go run. It was all of about 40 minutes from the time I took my last bite to the time I hit the track. I just had a lot on my mind and felt that if I run extra hard, it would relieve some stress. Well, I ran a mile in 6:44....it normally takes me just over 7:14 a mile.

In the gym, I did a totally different workout. I ran into a Warrent Officer that I met through another friend at the bar this past weekend and he asked if I wanted to jump in with him and his buddy.....well me being young, dumb and full of.....eagerness jumped at the oppurtunity. Let's just say I was smoked harder then I've been in a LONG time. We had all the Air Force kids stairing at us like we where freaks. The cool thing is, he actually knew a few people from my unit, and almost joined, but decided flying helo's was better.

Anyway, I feel better now, just tired....more tired then usual. I'm gonna do some research on overtraining, one of my buddies mentioned that to me tonight, because he said I look like damnit and he thinks I might be pushing to hard. Of course, he's in a leg artillary unit...go figure.. :rolleyes:

Dustin03 07-07-2005 23:27

Overtraining
 
http://www.buildingbodies.ca/Weights/Overtraining.shtml

http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C377714.html

and finally,

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/i.../aa040600a.htm

Symptoms of Overtraining Syndrome

Are you exercising too much?
Overtraining occurs when athletes try too hard to improve performance and train beyond the body's ability to recover.

The common warning signs of overtraining include the following:

Mild leg soreness, general achiness
Pain in muscles & joints
Washed-out feeling, tired, drained, lack of energy
Sudden drop in ability to run ‘normal’ distance or times
Insomnia
Headaches
Inability to relax, twitchy, fidgety
Insatiable thirst, dehydration
Lowered resistance to common illnesses; colds, sore throat, etc.
What do I do if I have some of these Warning Signs?

If your suffering from several of these warning signs go see your physician so that any potentially serious problem can be ruled out.

Otherwise, just stop & rest, take a few days off. Drink plenty of fluids, check & alter your diet if necessary. Maybe plan an alternate work-out routine so that your not constantly working just the same muscle groups. If you don’t receive consistant massage work, this would be a good time to get one or two sessions to help flush metabolic wastes out of your system and help loosen up. To prevent further overtraining injuries, check out some of the more common overuse factors associated. You may need to modify all or part of what you’re doing. If you suffer an injury during a workout, just remember RICE, this could save you alot of pain, discomfort, and a long recuperative layoff.

lksteve 07-08-2005 08:27

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Originally Posted by Dustin03
no sir, i was sitting here at the computer, eating some chicken fingers, drinking water, and then i decided it's about as hot as it's gonna get today so I think I'll go run.

an effective PT program has to be planned...spur of the moment work outs might assuage any guilt you may have, but if you plan your work and work your plan, you will be better satified with the results...

Doc 07-08-2005 09:49

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Originally Posted by lksteve
an effective PT program has to be planned...

There it is.

Not a scuba guy but the "plan your dive and dive your plan" is good advice for anybody.

ROTFL at NDD's reply.

Doc

Warrior-Mentor 07-10-2005 00:11

Puking should not be viewed as a normal training event. I've only puked twice while running...once from dehydration (I was stupid and took nasal decongestants before a 5 mile formation run) and once from eating while running (powerbars during a marathon).

Read Stu Mittleman's book SLOW BURN. If I remember correctly, he recommends a training heart rate at 180 minus your age. Once you read it, you'l understand why. If you're forcing yourself to hold down vomit everytime you run, you're over training.

Getting in shape doesn't happen over night.

jon448 07-13-2005 08:17

Quick Question
 
I have a real quick question, I searched through the board and I tried google but I can't really find the answer. My question is: Is it be better to do cardio work before or after I do my weights and PT?
Currently my weakest point is running/rucking, if that makes a difference. Thanks in advance guys.

Dustin03 07-13-2005 10:40

I've heard it both ways to be honest. This may just be an opinion type issue. I know growing up, in 6 seasons of sports it seems like we always did our weight training first before heading out to do sprints. I'm sure you can look harder and find something...like THIS


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