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Roguish Lawyer 07-25-2006 11:10

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Originally Posted by The Reaper
No charge for the top cover and diversionary effort, Counselor.

All I ask is that you watch the movie.:D

TR

Your wish is my command.

bluebb 07-25-2006 11:12

One more movie
 
I think we should add "Go tell the Spartans" to the list of required movies.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077617/fullcredits

Blue

bluebb 07-25-2006 11:30

One more movie.
 
Should have added this one also, "The odd angry shot", an aussie movie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079652/

Blue

x SF med 07-25-2006 11:46

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
Good thing I'm not a Delta, because then I might ask you whether you really were a Bravo . . . :eek: ;)

RL-
Right on both counts - I was both a Bravo and a Delta, therefore your barbed retorts cannot hurt me - bodies, bullet launchers - just machines, but humans are much messier than metal.;)

Sdiver 07-25-2006 11:47

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
RL - just take the GB test - so I can leave this thread, please.

Ummmm Doc,
Don't be thinkin' that you can get away that fast. No poppin' smoke here.

That was just the 1st of several tests about the movie The Green Berets that I've compiled. I'm going for stumping the QP's.:lifter

Roguish Lawyer 07-25-2006 11:53

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
RL-
Right on both counts - I was both a Bravo and a Delta, therefore your barbed retorts cannot hurt me - bodies, bullet launchers - just machines, but humans are much messier than metal.;)

You'd think I would have checked your profile before trying that one . . . :o

Pete 07-25-2006 12:46

The Caine Mutiny?
 
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
You'd think I would have checked your profile before trying that one . . . :o

Now RL;

I think somewhere Waaaay back in this tread you said you never saw "The Caine Mutiny"? Tell me that was not so, or at least that you have seen it since.

That movie should be required viewing in law school. When the lawyer walks into the ballroom and throws the drink - Whoa, that speach he gives is great.

Pete

Jack Moroney (RIP) 07-25-2006 13:05

Who played the NVA general who was sky hooked?

Sdiver 07-25-2006 13:11

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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney
Who played the NVA general who was sky hooked?

William Olds....

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0646201/

Sdiver 07-25-2006 13:18

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Originally Posted by Pete
Now RL;

I think somewhere Waaaay back in this tread you said you never saw "The Caine Mutiny"? Tell me that was not so, or at least that you have seen it since.

That movie should be required viewing in law school. When the lawyer walks into the ballroom and throws the drink - Whoa, that speach he gives is great.

Pete

Yes Sir...

Jose' Ferrer, at his best IMHO.

Jack Moroney (RIP) 07-25-2006 13:29

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Originally Posted by Sdiver

Yep but that was his English Name. His Hawaiian name was something like Kaeola Sproule Olds. He is a friend of mine and we served together as majors in the 1/23rd Infantry, 2nd Infantry Division, Korea, in 78-79.

Mike 07-25-2006 13:31

The movie came out while I was in 6th grp on orders for RVN-a bunch of us went up to Charlotte to see it and paid a lot of attention.
The Col was Col Welch, CO of airborne school at the time. I got my wings pinned on by him.

Rumor was that the burning crewman died.

We showed it outdoors at A 341-the Viets and CIDG laughed at the gibberish the fake VNs were speaking.

The LLDB Dai-Uy immediately built a tower. Ours was much better than the movie version.

The A camp sequence was pretty good-everything else very hollywood.

They would have been strung out for a hundred miles on that jump the way they meandered out of the plane.

The jeep driver was just a trainee they grabbed and put there for effect-believe he had no wings,

John Wayne may have been authorized a beret, but Maggie spent a lot of time putting in time with the troops. Her "teamhouse" was open to any SF vets.

A lot of good men from hollywood served honorably in WW2-John Wayne ducked it. No cigar in my book.

"Mr Roberts" and "The Caine Mutiny" were terrific movies.

Tubbs 07-25-2006 14:46

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
Tubbs - you are redeemable, you now have to rent or buy the Green Berets and watch it 5 times, then take the test originally posted for RL.

Solid Copy. I have it on the way from Netflix.
I have seen "The Sands of Iwo Jima" at least a dozen times, can that count towards my redeemability? After all I was a Jarhead.

x SF med 07-25-2006 14:56

I will have to confer with counsel, AL, not RL - and get back to you. Since you were a Marine, we may have to cut you some slack, realizing that you are already 'challenged'.... ;) :D Ultimate proof being that you chose to live in West Texas - or is it West, Texas by Waco....

Roguish Lawyer 07-25-2006 18:06

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
I will have to confer with counsel, AL, not RL

Cheap bastard. :p

x SF med 07-25-2006 20:58

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
Cheap bastard. :p

Yessiree, Bob! I learned to live on enlisted and NCO pay prior to getting edumacated and having fancy letters after my name - then I got divorced, and she got half of everything - but no alimony. Better cheap than debt ridden. Plus AL has seen the GB movie.:munchin :rolleyes:

Q 07-25-2006 21:19

Speaking of the movie
 
You guys ain't gonna believe this. I have a group, black and white photo of JW and the A-Team they used for the walk-on. Did you know they built the A-Camp at Benning right off the DZ they used for Jump School.....what the heck was the name of that DZ? Damn I'm gettin' old! Regardless what you might think of the Duke he and his family were great supporters of Group. But I've got to agree Maggie was the best. "Q".

Tubbs 07-25-2006 21:20

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
I will have to confer with counsel, AL, not RL - and get back to you. Since you were a Marine, we may have to cut you some slack, realizing that you are already 'challenged'.... ;) :D Ultimate proof being that you chose to live in West Texas - or is it West, Texas by Waco....

WHOA!!!

Them's fightin' words. I would never choose to live in West Texas(although originally being from Boston I am NOT a Kennedy supporter). My options were to...
a. live with my wife in West Texas for 6 months to a year or
b. find a new wife

But yeah, I can't argue with the rest of it. At least it was all "good training":lifter .

The Reaper 07-25-2006 21:21

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Originally Posted by Q
You guys ain't gonna believe this. I have a group, black and white photo of JW and the A-Team they used for the walk-on. Did you know they built the A-Camp at Benning right off the DZ they used for Jump School.....what the heck was the name of that DZ? Damn I'm gettin' old! Regardless what you might think of the Duke he and his family were great supporters of Group. But I've got to agree Maggie was the best. "Q".

Fryar DZ.

TR

x SF med 07-25-2006 21:23

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Originally Posted by Q
You guys ain't gonna believe this. I have a group, black and white photo of JW and the A-Team they used for the walk-on. Did you know they built the A-Camp at Benning right off the DZ they used for Jump School.....what the heck was the name of that DZ? Damn I'm gettin' old! Regardless what you might think of the Duke he and his family were great supporters of Group. But I've got to agree Maggie was the best. "Q".

Fryar, or Luzon were the 2 they used for ABN

Dammit TR, you beat me to it while I was typing.

x SF med 07-25-2006 21:27

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Originally Posted by Tubbs
WHOA!!!

Them's fightin' words. I would never choose to live in West Texas(although originally being from Boston I am NOT a Kennedy supporter). My options were to...
a. live with my wife in West Texas for 6 months to a year or
b. find a new wife

But yeah, I can't argue with the rest of it. At least it was all "good training":lifter .


fort Woth was bad enough for me - but I do have a cousin in The land that oil has sunk, literally, the area has dropped by a foot since they started pumping - Odessa-Permian area.

NousDefionsDoc 07-25-2006 21:30

If Doc Farr ever posts again, I believe he has an interesting story regarding airborne ops and The Duke's A-Camp.

Tubbs 07-25-2006 21:32

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
fort Woth was bad enough for me - but I do have a cousin in The land that oil has sunk, literally, the area has dropped by a foot since they started pumping - Odessa-Permian area.

Trust me, as soon as I get out of this dump I am never looking back. After this experience I told my wife it was me or the AF. If I get my job before she re-ups then we're out. If not...well, I have a nice apron and I can probobly get some pointers from the lovely ladies on the site.

HOLLiS 07-25-2006 21:55

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Originally Posted by Tubbs
Trust me, as soon as I get out of this dump I am never looking back. After this experience I told my wife it was me or the AF. If I get my job before she re-ups then we're out. If not...well, I have a nice apron and I can probobly get some pointers from the lovely ladies on the site.


Being a house hubby is all that not bad, it has advantages. Set yourself up a small business, helps prevent massive boredom. Generally the wife has the biggest problems with it. I have found a good dinner calms the savage beast.

Tubbs 07-25-2006 22:29

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Originally Posted by HOLLiS
Being a house hubby is all that not bad, it has advantages. Set yourself up a small business, helps prevent massive boredom. Generally the wife has the biggest problems with it. I have found a good dinner calms the savage beast.

Well, I do the cooking anyways, so being a house husband was actually her idea. I tried the small business thing but apperently thugery is not a legitimate business. :confused:
Any suggestions?

12B4S 07-25-2006 22:31

Yeah Q. Maggie was the BEST!!!!! I was privileged for two nights a long time ago to have sat, BS'd and drank with her back at Flint. The second night, it somehow turned out at the end of the night in the NCO club it was just her and I. That woman could drinkkkkkkkk. My estimate was easily a fifth of vodka. So being it was just her and I and really late/early. I drove her back to her quarters in my '61 VW. This was in 1970... maybe early '71. We don't often get to be around people like that. Not the celebrity...... the person. Incredible!!!!!!!

While she was there, we got a sheet or something like it and she signed it as we all did. She had a special room in her home for SF stuff. As I understand it, that room was recreated at the SF museum at Bragg. I realize she had collected a ton throughout her years with SF. Just wondering if any of you still at Bragg have seen the display and if that 'sheet' is there.

BTW. When I was in. JW had the Team House. Yes any guy that was SF or past SF could go and stay there.

x SF med 07-26-2006 06:34

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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
If Doc Farr ever posts again, I believe he has an interesting story regarding airborne ops and The Duke's A-Camp.

Doc Farr was possibly the best instructor I ever had in SF, tough but fair, plus Doc Rocky used to be a 91B(S) NCO, so he knew what we really needed on a team.

NDD - I've heard the story, years ago at Ft Sam, prior to one of our 'keep the pay' jumps in the briar fields of the NG tng area outside San Antonio, can't remember details, all I remember is we were all laughing so hard that it was difficult to get into our harnesses.

Roguish Lawyer 07-26-2006 11:11

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
Doc Farr was possibly the best instructor I ever had in SF, tough but fair, plus Doc Rocky used to be a 91B(S) NCO, so he knew what we really needed on a team.

NDD - I've heard the story, years ago at Ft Sam, prior to one of our 'keep the pay' jumps in the briar fields of the NG tng area outside San Antonio, can't remember details, all I remember is we were all laughing so hard that it was difficult to get into our harnesses.

So who is going to get Doc Farr to come in here and tell the story? :munchin

CPTAUSRET 07-26-2006 11:58

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Originally Posted by 12B4S
Yeah Q. Maggie was the BEST!!!!! I was privileged for two nights a long time ago to have sat, BS'd and drank with her back at Flint. The second night, it somehow turned out at the end of the night in the NCO club it was just her and I. That woman could drinkkkkkkkk. My estimate was easily a fifth of vodka. So being it was just her and I and really late/early. I drove her back to her quarters in my '61 VW. This was in 1970... maybe early '71. We don't often get to be around people like that. Not the celebrity...... the person. Incredible!!!!!!!

While she was there, we got a sheet or something like it and she signed it as we all did. She had a special room in her home for SF stuff. As I understand it, that room was recreated at the SF museum at Bragg. I realize she had collected a ton throughout her years with SF. Just wondering if any of you still at Bragg have seen the display and if that 'sheet' is there.

BTW. When I was in. JW had the Team House. Yes any guy that was SF or past SF could go and stay there.



If someone wants to start a COL Martha/Maggie thread, I'll contribute to it.

x SF med 07-26-2006 14:08

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
So who is going to get Doc Farr to come in here and tell the story? :munchin


Somebody has got to track down COL Rocky Farr (Jeez, he used to just be a CPT when he taught us) and get the man to post a little. NDD, TS, TR - any contact with DOC Farr?

NousDefionsDoc 08-07-2006 17:22

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
Doc Farr was possibly the best instructor I ever had in SF, tough but fair, plus Doc Rocky used to be a 91B(S) NCO, so he knew what we really needed on a team.

NDD - I've heard the story, years ago at Ft Sam, prior to one of our 'keep the pay' jumps in the briar fields of the NG tng area outside San Antonio, can't remember details, all I remember is we were all laughing so hard that it was difficult to get into our harnesses.

Camp Bullis

x SF med 08-08-2006 06:38

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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
Camp Bullis

NDD- I meant remembering the details of (then CPT) Dr. Farr's story... I'm getting old and sometimes have CRS...

Roguish Lawyer 08-26-2007 14:20

My son is back in the hospital for a few days, and the movie has been playing repeatedly on one of the cable channels. That's what he's wanted to watch. Over and over and over . . . :)

82ndtrooper 08-26-2007 14:36

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
My son is back in the hospital for a few days, and the movie has been playing repeatedly on one of the cable channels. That's what he's wanted to watch. Over and over and over . . . :)

Yep, I caught it about 2:30 and following that was "The Frogmen" another decent black and white but much earlier than "The Green Berets"

BTW RL: Your son is still in our daily prayers and on our church prayer list. I might have already told you that . Hope all is well.

Roguish Lawyer 08-26-2007 14:55

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Originally Posted by 82ndtrooper
BTW RL: Your son is still in our daily prayers and on our church prayer list. I might have already told you that . Hope all is well.

Thanks very much, 82T. Much appreciated.

Sdiver 08-27-2007 09:18

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
My son is back in the hospital for a few days, and the movie has been playing repeatedly on one of the cable channels. That's what he's wanted to watch. Over and over and over . . . :)

How about you? Have YOU been watching it over and over and over...???

You still haven't answered those questions, I posted oh sooooo long ago, in this thread. :)

SFS0AVN 08-27-2007 09:44

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Originally Posted by QRQ 30
In addition, I was a Pfc when I graduated in Training Group. We didn't get any promotions in Training Group higher than Pfc E-3. I think the medics may have received one stripe upon promotion. I didn't make SP4 until I had been in the 10th SFG for several months.

It was entirely possible and even probable that a Pfc would be the CO's driver. If he did well a stripe usually resulted.

Things were different. We had just returned from a Joint FCX with the British SAS. When we returned, LYT Faistenheimer was in our team room and congratulating me on a job well done. The team sergeant, MSG Valenzuela told the Col: "If you think he is that good, don't shake his hand, promote him." Within the week I was promoted to SSG.

I graduated SF Tng Gp Med Class 63-7 and several in my class made SP4 upon completion of Branch. I think Medics were the only ones who could get promotions, as students, in Tng Gp because of the length of training.

Sigaba 03-26-2009 14:50

How would you remake The Green Berets?
 
That is, if you had a massive budget ($150 m - $200 m).

Questions to consider.

Would you remake the movie (i.e. same characters and plot) or reboot the movie to cover another event in the history of Special Forces?

Which studio would you have back you?

How would you cast the film? If some of the most skilled actors working today (such as Sean Penn) expressed interest in doing the film your way, would you consider them?

Who would be your primary behind the camera team (producers, writer, director)?

Would you seek assistance from the Department of Defense and other interested parties (and all the strings any assistance would imply) or would you go your own way as did Clint Eastwood when he made Heartbreak Ridge. (Originally, Tom Highway was a ranger.)

To what extent would you balance your vision of the film with the "notes" provided by the suits? (They're going to back you no matter what but they'll let you know if you're in the process of making the most expensive art house movie in film history or if you're making an action packed explosive thriller that will have people lined up around the block.)

Where would you premier the film?

ZonieDiver 03-26-2009 15:05

Class starts soon, so no time for a lengthy reply:

BUT, I'd have "Ham Chunk" leave RVN as a "boat person," emigrate to the USA, become a citizen with SF'ers (FOG's - gotta get FOG's in the movie) from the original as sponsors, enlist in US Army, become SF and lead a team in A-Stan! Just a thought...

Slantwire 03-26-2009 15:10

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 256496)
Would you remake the movie (i.e. same characters and plot) or reboot the movie to cover another event in the history of Special Forces?

Not going to mess with the original. Maybe a fictional plot in the early days of 10th Group in eastern Europe. With the practical constraint of the current audience's limited history, I'd probably go with Afghanistan.

Edited to add: ZonieDiver is right. One way or another, it must have FOGs.

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 256496)
Which studio would you have back you?

Don't know enough about the industry to answer this one.

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 256496)
How would you cast the film? If some of the most skilled actors working today (such as Sean Penn) expressed interest in doing the film your way, would you consider them?

I'd be doing it with the same intention as Wayne: as tribute to the men of the regiment. Actors' attitudes towards the project would have to match the intent. Therefore, Gary Sinise and Bruce Willis would be candidates. Sean Penn would be right out. Unless I can figure a way to write him in as a villain.

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 256496)
Who would be your primary behind the camera team (producers, writer, director)?

Again, I don't know the industry enough to make these picks without research. I'd definitely have some tabbed personnel for technical advisors.

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 256496)
Would you seek assistance from the Department of Defense and other interested parties (and all the strings any assistance would imply) or would you go your own way as did Clint Eastwood when he made Heartbreak Ridge. (Originally, Tom Highway was a ranger.)

I'd ask for it, and see what strings would be attached. Wayne used it for his, and Black Hawk Down would have been odd if they had been limited to civilian Hueys. With my intent as stated above, hopefully the DoD would work with me.

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 256496)
To what extent would you balance your vision of the film with the "notes" provided by the suits? (They're going to back you no matter what but they'll let you know if you're in the process of making the most expensive art house movie in film history or if you're making an action packed explosive thriller that will have people lined up around the block.)

If they're going to back me, then I'll use that to do it right. Black Hawk Down and Taking Chance seem to be at opposite ends of the spectrum, but they both seem to be doing okay.

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 256496)
Where would you premier the film?

Easiest question yet. Takoma WA, Fayetteville NC, Clarksville TN, and Colorado Springs. If the suits insist on LA or NYC as well, that's fine, but those towns are required.


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